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you're in the paracast the gold standard

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of paranormal radio

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and now

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we've got a really fascinating episode

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for you this week we're going to

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escape the ufo subject i guess for the

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most part unless we're talking about

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possible star people

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we'll be talking later to artie six

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killer clark who's been one of our

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favorite guests and

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she's agreed to come back on the show

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but right now we have a few other things

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to talk about first of course

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if you follow the back and forth about

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the appearance last week of stanton

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friedman and kathleen martin you'll

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notice that kathleen has actually become

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a participant in our forums not like you

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know every other message but she's

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posted a few

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and that's good we always like our

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guests to participate stan has done it a

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couple of times but he's not a forum guy

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but i hope to continue to encourage him

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because i think it's important to get a

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lot of these insights because our four

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members can be sometimes a little bit

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blunt

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about what they believe but you gotta

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all points of view and i think that's

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the biggest criticism i have of stan

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that consider

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kevin randle who has backtracked on some

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things that he's written about because

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he continues to investigate to verify

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the things he's written and see whether

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the sources pan out or not and this is

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probably true with his latest book on

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roswell for the 21st century where some

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of the stuff he no longer accepts is

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and i think maybe someone like stan

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ought to consider the same thing don't

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just accept that mj12

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is real and the eisenhower briefing

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document was real go back and look at it

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what do you think chris well first of

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permission to

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re-evaluate positions that they've taken

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based on either new evidence new

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revelations or

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you know the influence of of you know

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real deep insight from your critics and

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malleable in that sense as as i can

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really good indication that someone

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who's been in the field for over 40

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years as kevin randle has to

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be able to temper their you know their

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conclusions that they've arrived at over

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the years based on

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on reevaluating evidence or you know

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case or a particular question i do uh i

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guard if uh if someone like a kevin

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go ahead and you know amend his his

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feelings his opinions and uh conclusions

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so i think that's uh that's a real

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stanton who of course

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for him to possibly be swayed because

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he really has spent so much time and

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it's actually was paid thousands of

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steadfastly sticking to uh over the past

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and it's you know someone like stan he's

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almost you know maybe he should be on

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the mount rushmore if you followed you

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or something but uh you know someone

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like right that's an interesting point

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of view mount rushmore of ufology

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who else would we put up there john keel

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have uh the utmost respect for for his

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work although he really didn't

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very good researcher but

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someone like ray stanford i think once

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out and reveals the information that he

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has i think he will definitely be front

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runner for that particular position but

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you know the time arch is on and we need

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to we need to temper

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uh this pop culture programming with uh

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with the facts with evidence with the

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type of insight and thinking that the

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and i'm not going to change that but

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we're dealing in a field where our

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pointing out that evidence is being

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ignored about some pretty strange things

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wants to say okay i'm exploring

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the unknown and listening to the power

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cast but if you dare to express a

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political point of view that's different

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however wacky it might be

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at ideas that are not being accepted

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that which science is damned as someone

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willingness to look at a lot of

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point of view or try to look at these

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alternate points of view

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goes throughout what you do it's not

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news from one source with a certain

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political point of view that matches

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wide range of ideas and then coming to

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chris

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if you had two hundred thousand dollars

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what would you do with it

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other than bills or a new home

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that's a good question obviously the san

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luis valley camera project would

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would have full-time employees at least

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initially to get the rest of the

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the system up um that would be one

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priority that i would have um

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i would also probably get take 10 of it

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and put it into a worthy cause uh paid

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finance a couple of trips uh to places

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you know kind of on my bucket list where

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i wanted to go to do some quality

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you know possibly upgrade my

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ford uh

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why do you ask

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you got a ship coming in there gino well

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no i'm thinking about a ship going out

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and that is if you can get 200 000

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would it be

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the price of admission to colonize mars

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two hundred thousand dollars apiece now

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that's not the initial price according

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millions but if he could reuse

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and do all these things he hopes that

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ten years from now perhaps

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you'll be able to spend two hundred

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thousand dollars to take a one

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way trip to mars colonize the planet

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now i don't know about you i'm not that

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anxious to leave

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this planet yet and it's possible the

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of life and death may

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compel that decision

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but he's talking about having 100 to 200

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the trip taking between 80 and 150 days

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well i don't know i i think i'm

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a little bit too far down the river

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that if i was in my 20s and

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that would be a whole different story it

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would be obviously would be a historic

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adventure of a lifetime and and i would

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consider something like that i am quite

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quite adventurous and

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i do at times kind of consider myself a

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bit of a pioneer but

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right now

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i don't know you know maybe

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let me just be brief about before we go

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on he's saying they're going to send an

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unmanned test aircraft to

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a test spaceship to mars by 2018

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get the first manned voyage to mars by

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but it's going to be decades after that

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before you're sending routinely a

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hundred to two hundred people so i'm not

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ready for that

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urban american indians

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tell their stories artie welcome back to

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the show

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well thank you i'm happy to be here

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by the way listeners there is some noise

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on her phone line it's just you know one

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of those things that everybody has

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a phone connection that works as well as

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it should in any case

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in writing this book is this additional

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tales you didn't have room to put in the

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earlier book or

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is this something that came by

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the first book was

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uh stories that have been told to me by

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native people who lived on the

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reservation and this book

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are stories that are told to me by the

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and by individuals who are native

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american uh but do not live on the

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reservation so there's a little you know

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one of the things that and and

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i wanted to share with with my readers

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is

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the

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variety of stories

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um in terms of the different themes that

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run through ufology so

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um

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it was you know 78

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of american indians live off of

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reservations not on reservations and i

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think that's a that's something that the

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general public really is not aware of

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that

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there are a lot of us out there who live

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in small towns and rural areas and in

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cities

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and

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so

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i chose for this book to tell their

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stories

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now do you find in looking at

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those who live off the reservation that

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maybe

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they lose

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because of their

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assimilation into general society lose

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some of those traditions

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i don't find that they lose the

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tradition so to speak but what i find is

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that

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many of the of the people i interviewed

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lived off the reservations because they

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had gone to the universities

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and had

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gotten college degrees and

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couldn't find employment back on their

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reservation and chose to live off the

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reservation

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to work

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others married um

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non-natives and chose to live off the

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reservation so there were

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but maintained a close relationship with

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the reservation had grown up hearing the

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star stories had

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had to go went back for traditional

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ceremonies and

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and

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wanted to make sure their children were

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exposed to those kind of things so

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it wasn't that

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they had

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had left behind those traditions it's

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just that they lived in a different

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setting and and literally bridged two

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worlds one one thing i've noticed is

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many uh

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natives that leave the reservation uh do

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try to stick fairly close so for

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instance out here

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around the uh the dna the navajo and

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apache reservations the towns you find

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right near the reservation like gallup

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and farmington flagstaff

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these towns have large native american

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populations possibly because you know

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people want to stay close to family

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members and at least be in the same

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region

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and at the same time they want to work

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right it's that's always good

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you don't want to be uh totally

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subservient to uh

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any sort of uh you know handouts and

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that sort of thing and you know

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people have problems reservations in

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the northwest you know have as much as

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60 70 percent unemployment

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and in order to have jobs people leave

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the reservation you know

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yeah that's understandable

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now when you look at the

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information they present to you about

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star people

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from people who are off the reservation

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any material differences or is it just

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people living in different places

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telling the same stories

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well i think there are differences

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because

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what you have

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in part is a population that many of

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them are university graduates

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some are even doctors and

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or have phds and so they look at their

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experiences in a little different light

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than some of those who

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um

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lived on the reservation they are more

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questioning they are more

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skeptical and one of the things that

519
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obviously has has changed over time with

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with

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the visitors

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even elders are telling me this that

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there are more than one star nation that

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is visiting earth

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that some of them have

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are

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entities that we should be concerned

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about

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uh what their motives are and so

530
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that certainly came through uh strongly

531
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um so that that there were

532
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there was a uniqueness

533
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and uh

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i don't know um

535
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everyone i meet you know among indian

536
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communities know these events occur

537
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but they're not discussed openly

538
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but um

539
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the stories as as i began collecting

540
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stories

541
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um you know

542
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before long i found myself like a half

543
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researcher half therapist half friend of

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people who really

545
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needed to share their stories because

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and as i

547
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point out in my book i think a lot of

548
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people

549
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in mainstream america or wherever all

550
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over the world

551
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have these experiences but simply carry

552
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these secrets and just do not tell

553
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anybody

554
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people never really ask

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they

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[Music]

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i point out in my book that i was at a

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barbecue after my first book came out

559
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and

560
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there was a retired

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teacher there from

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colorado

563
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and

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experience i had an encounter with ufo

565
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and all of a sudden there now there's 10

566
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people there there were two doctors

567
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medical doctors and they both had had

568
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experiences there was an engineer

569
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who was a petroleum engineer and he

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worked exclusively in south america for

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all companies and he would travel around

572
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looking for oil

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there was a

574
00:22:08,549 --> 00:22:06,880
graduate student and out of the 10

575
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people there six of them had an

576
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experience

577
00:22:13,830 --> 00:22:12,080
so i think that what we're finding is

578
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that more people are coming forth but

579
00:22:16,710 --> 00:22:15,600
they're still very cautious about who

580
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they tell

581
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and and how they admit that they have

582
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had these experiences

583
00:22:25,750 --> 00:22:23,600
you see that is very common

584
00:22:28,230 --> 00:22:25,760
in ufo research that lots of people have

585
00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:28,240
strange experiences happen

586
00:22:32,230 --> 00:22:30,960
and our guest last week stanton friedman

587
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mentions this

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that he's giving a lecture and he asks

589
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people how many of you have had

590
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something happen and

591
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a number of people will admit it how

592
00:22:43,350 --> 00:22:41,600
many of you have reported it and only a

593
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fraction of those people

594
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would admit to any such thing we've got

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a lot more to come with 36 killer clark

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joining gene and chris you're in the

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711
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rd6 killer clark the subject is star

712
00:27:39,990 --> 00:27:37,520
people so

713
00:27:42,310 --> 00:27:40,000
i suppose that is the issue you see too

714
00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:42,320
in talking to these people that there's

715
00:27:45,269 --> 00:27:43,679
a reluctance

716
00:27:47,590 --> 00:27:45,279
to report what they see is because of

717
00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:47,600
ridicule or what well i think you know

718
00:27:51,750 --> 00:27:50,159
with the urban indians it's it it was

719
00:27:52,549 --> 00:27:51,760
related more

720
00:27:54,549 --> 00:27:52,559
to

721
00:27:56,470 --> 00:27:54,559
fear of losing a job

722
00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:56,480
ridicule certainly plays a part in it

723
00:28:01,110 --> 00:27:58,000
because there's a lot of teasing that

724
00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:01,120
goes on in in native communities and you

725
00:28:04,789 --> 00:28:03,760
know i wrote about in my first book how

726
00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:04,799
the two

727
00:28:10,549 --> 00:28:07,840
two uh uh the lawmen

728
00:28:12,710 --> 00:28:10,559
that reported citing the ufo and they

729
00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:12,720
were referred to as the little green men

730
00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:15,360
hunters or you know it's just something

731
00:28:19,510 --> 00:28:17,440
that and they said that'll probably be

732
00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:19,520
on our gravestone if i had to do it over

733
00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:20,960
again i would have never made that

734
00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:23,440
report because i get teased all the time

735
00:28:26,470 --> 00:28:24,720
about it

736
00:28:28,230 --> 00:28:26,480
so there's a lot of teasing in the

737
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native community and that's just a part

738
00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:32,080
of our culture i think that for so many

739
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of the elders it's it's more of a

740
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spiritual experience or

741
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a part of the cosmology a part of the

742
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sacredness

743
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of

744
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um

745
00:28:49,110 --> 00:28:47,279
ufo experiences with you know the

746
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interaction between

747
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um

748
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and you know and and the ancestral

749
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linkage that they are the people who has

750
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gone before and that they've always

751
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known this and they tell about it in

752
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their legends but nobody has really

753
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given them that much credit

754
00:29:10,149 --> 00:29:08,720
now i get the impression from what you

755
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say we're not just talking about

756
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experiences passed down from father the

757
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son the daughter or whatever we're

758
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talking about people today who are still

759
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having these experiences right

760
00:29:22,549 --> 00:29:20,799
right absolutely

761
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i'm hoping

762
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that i can write a book that that where

763
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i will tell

764
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because when i first started on this

765
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journey

766
00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:33,039
i was collecting the ancient stories

767
00:29:37,269 --> 00:29:34,720
about star people

768
00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:37,279
and i would when i was with elders i

769
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would often ask them did they have any

770
00:29:44,389 --> 00:29:41,760
star stories and if i could record them

771
00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:44,399
and and i said maybe you know someday i

772
00:29:48,789 --> 00:29:47,039
might put them all together you know for

773
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i was thinking more along the lines of

774
00:29:55,110 --> 00:29:51,200
education for native students

775
00:29:57,190 --> 00:29:55,120
so i collected a lot of ancient stories

776
00:29:59,590 --> 00:29:57,200
ancient legends that they consider a

777
00:30:01,029 --> 00:29:59,600
part of their history of their tribe

778
00:30:04,230 --> 00:30:01,039
and when

779
00:30:06,549 --> 00:30:04,240
what i would like to do is to is to

780
00:30:09,510 --> 00:30:06,559
tell those ancient stories as they were

781
00:30:10,230 --> 00:30:09,520
told to me and then follow each and make

782
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us

783
00:30:15,350 --> 00:30:12,799
that a chapter and then within that

784
00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:15,360
chapter tell a contemporary story that

785
00:30:17,350 --> 00:30:16,320
has

786
00:30:20,389 --> 00:30:17,360
similar

787
00:30:23,990 --> 00:30:20,399
themes for example if i tell an ancient

788
00:30:26,149 --> 00:30:24,000
legend about a man that was taken to the

789
00:30:28,389 --> 00:30:26,159
stars by a woman

790
00:30:31,990 --> 00:30:28,399
then i want to follow that up with a

791
00:30:34,710 --> 00:30:32,000
contemporary story along the same vein

792
00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:34,720
that's a good idea uh kind of do a side

793
00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:36,480
by side comparison

794
00:30:40,070 --> 00:30:38,240
i think that's a very good idea you know

795
00:30:43,110 --> 00:30:40,080
i've always wondered artie

796
00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:43,120
what percentage of native american

797
00:30:48,389 --> 00:30:45,440
traditional groups

798
00:30:50,549 --> 00:30:48,399
have you know these ancient sort of

799
00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:50,559
the star people legends are are an

800
00:30:55,590 --> 00:30:52,320
integral part of their their spiritual

801
00:30:58,630 --> 00:30:55,600
tradition are you can can you say that a

802
00:31:00,950 --> 00:30:58,640
vast majority of different uh indian

803
00:31:04,149 --> 00:31:00,960
nations have this traditional type of

804
00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:04,159
knowledge or or do some not have it and

805
00:31:07,830 --> 00:31:05,039
and

806
00:31:09,510 --> 00:31:07,840
maybe have something that's that's

807
00:31:12,070 --> 00:31:09,520
that's different from that

808
00:31:13,750 --> 00:31:12,080
is there any way to put a number on that

809
00:31:16,710 --> 00:31:13,760
well i don't have any way of putting a

810
00:31:19,909 --> 00:31:16,720
number on it but it certainly isn't

811
00:31:23,029 --> 00:31:19,919
something that you find in every tribe

812
00:31:26,149 --> 00:31:23,039
first of all the legends a legend to me

813
00:31:27,750 --> 00:31:26,159
is is historical it is an account of an

814
00:31:30,789 --> 00:31:27,760
event that happened

815
00:31:34,070 --> 00:31:30,799
a myth is to me is

816
00:31:36,630 --> 00:31:34,080
something that that occurred it may be a

817
00:31:40,149 --> 00:31:36,640
story of a hero but then it's

818
00:31:43,269 --> 00:31:40,159
you know exaggerated or it may be

819
00:31:46,549 --> 00:31:43,279
an explanation of why something exists

820
00:31:49,269 --> 00:31:46,559
i do find in most tribes there are myths

821
00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:49,279
about the cosmos for example they'll

822
00:31:54,789 --> 00:31:52,000
tell how the milky way came to be or how

823
00:31:56,389 --> 00:31:54,799
you know ladies came to be or

824
00:31:59,029 --> 00:31:56,399
you know how

825
00:32:02,710 --> 00:31:59,039
there's just a lot of myths

826
00:32:04,870 --> 00:32:02,720
intended to explain the world but then

827
00:32:07,110 --> 00:32:04,880
there are legends in some of the tribes

828
00:32:08,070 --> 00:32:07,120
and i would say maybe

829
00:32:09,750 --> 00:32:08,080
20

830
00:32:12,789 --> 00:32:09,760
of the tribes have

831
00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:12,799
have legends about

832
00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:15,120
interaction with star people

833
00:32:18,549 --> 00:32:16,080
and so

834
00:32:19,990 --> 00:32:18,559
uh it's not common throughout all the

835
00:32:22,149 --> 00:32:20,000
travel groups

836
00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:22,159
but it certainly you know

837
00:32:27,430 --> 00:32:24,080
you see you even see a lot of it in

838
00:32:29,909 --> 00:32:27,440
south america i mean you know there's

839
00:32:30,789 --> 00:32:29,919
more tribes in south america than there

840
00:32:32,789 --> 00:32:30,799
are

841
00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:32,799
in the united states and yet you know

842
00:32:38,630 --> 00:32:35,279
it's just amazing how many stories they

843
00:32:42,230 --> 00:32:38,640
have now the same thing in in canada you

844
00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:42,240
know you you do run across stories in

845
00:32:48,230 --> 00:32:44,799
canada and run across tribes who have

846
00:32:51,350 --> 00:32:48,240
stories but for you know like um

847
00:32:54,230 --> 00:32:51,360
on a recent trip to alaska i had a an

848
00:32:56,389 --> 00:32:54,240
elder tell me these stories about

849
00:32:57,430 --> 00:32:56,399
the men with tails and it's an ancient

850
00:32:58,710 --> 00:32:57,440
legend

851
00:33:02,230 --> 00:32:58,720
of the people

852
00:33:04,310 --> 00:33:02,240
um that tells of a time when these giant

853
00:33:06,870 --> 00:33:04,320
men with tails

854
00:33:10,710 --> 00:33:06,880
live and they were cannibals

855
00:33:13,190 --> 00:33:10,720
and they came from the stars and and

856
00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:13,200
the the tribe was very fearful of them

857
00:33:17,669 --> 00:33:15,200
because they were killing their people

858
00:33:19,509 --> 00:33:17,679
and so when they were

859
00:33:22,070 --> 00:33:19,519
um

860
00:33:24,070 --> 00:33:22,080
asleep at night

861
00:33:26,950 --> 00:33:24,080
the tribe took it upon themselves to

862
00:33:28,950 --> 00:33:26,960
kill them and as a warning to any who

863
00:33:32,149 --> 00:33:28,960
would come after them that

864
00:33:33,269 --> 00:33:32,159
um we are are capable of defending

865
00:33:35,509 --> 00:33:33,279
ourselves

866
00:33:37,909 --> 00:33:35,519
so you know when you read that and then

867
00:33:41,029 --> 00:33:37,919
you read you have somebody tell you a

868
00:33:43,110 --> 00:33:41,039
story about a lizard man with a tail

869
00:33:45,750 --> 00:33:43,120
scoots along the ground i mean you have

870
00:33:48,070 --> 00:33:45,760
to think where

871
00:33:50,070 --> 00:33:48,080
there is there truth in this did this

872
00:33:52,710 --> 00:33:50,080
actually happen and is this you know

873
00:33:55,190 --> 00:33:52,720
it's not a story it's an actual account

874
00:33:57,990 --> 00:33:55,200
of something that happened but for so

875
00:34:00,389 --> 00:33:58,000
long our ancient legends were just

876
00:34:01,750 --> 00:34:00,399
regarded as folklore or fantasy or

877
00:34:03,830 --> 00:34:01,760
whatever and

878
00:34:06,950 --> 00:34:03,840
and disregarded

879
00:34:08,310 --> 00:34:06,960
uh as we progressed into the industrial

880
00:34:09,750 --> 00:34:08,320
age because

881
00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:09,760
you know that was

882
00:34:13,349 --> 00:34:11,919
see i believe that the that all people

883
00:34:15,190 --> 00:34:13,359
used to have these same kind of

884
00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:15,200
interactions and same kind of stories

885
00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:18,399
but people throw things aside

886
00:34:21,669 --> 00:34:19,200
yeah

887
00:34:23,669 --> 00:34:21,679
um i've always been fascinated by the

888
00:34:24,869 --> 00:34:23,679
the northern plains

889
00:34:27,109 --> 00:34:24,879
um

890
00:34:29,510 --> 00:34:27,119
more specifically the lakotas tradition

891
00:34:32,310 --> 00:34:29,520
of white buffalo calf woman

892
00:34:33,430 --> 00:34:32,320
and that's an example of star knowledge

893
00:34:35,669 --> 00:34:33,440
that is

894
00:34:37,589 --> 00:34:35,679
pretty much uh

895
00:34:39,109 --> 00:34:37,599
it boils down to

896
00:34:42,550 --> 00:34:39,119
a single event

897
00:34:45,510 --> 00:34:42,560
uh a visit by a single individual that

898
00:34:46,550 --> 00:34:45,520
then spawned a whole system of spiritual

899
00:34:48,550 --> 00:34:46,560
knowledge

900
00:34:51,430 --> 00:34:48,560
uh within that that particular uh

901
00:34:54,149 --> 00:34:51,440
subcultural group of of natives and do

902
00:34:57,990 --> 00:34:54,159
you find that uh most of the legendary

903
00:34:59,430 --> 00:34:58,000
stories uh are attributed to various uh

904
00:35:01,589 --> 00:34:59,440
encounters or

905
00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:01,599
in the case of lakota are

906
00:35:05,270 --> 00:35:03,280
some of them even

907
00:35:07,030 --> 00:35:05,280
distilled down to a single encounter

908
00:35:09,829 --> 00:35:07,040
that has then opened up a whole

909
00:35:11,829 --> 00:35:09,839
resulting uh sort of tradition of of

910
00:35:15,270 --> 00:35:11,839
star people knowledge

911
00:35:17,829 --> 00:35:15,280
well you know the the the white buffalo

912
00:35:20,390 --> 00:35:17,839
uh cath woman is is a

913
00:35:22,950 --> 00:35:20,400
is a story uh you know that tells of of

914
00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:22,960
the woman who appears and who

915
00:35:28,710 --> 00:35:26,000
uh who then teaches the lakota the

916
00:35:31,990 --> 00:35:28,720
knowledge of how to live and how to

917
00:35:35,910 --> 00:35:32,000
to live in in a proper way

918
00:35:37,990 --> 00:35:35,920
and then she goes away and disappears

919
00:35:39,430 --> 00:35:38,000
according to the legend there's really

920
00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:39,440
no

921
00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:42,640
um

922
00:35:48,790 --> 00:35:45,760
indication that she came from the stars

923
00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:48,800
but you know if you if you go to other

924
00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:51,040
cultures there are stories

925
00:35:55,910 --> 00:35:53,760
um of uh

926
00:35:58,230 --> 00:35:55,920
i was told a story by a canadian elder

927
00:36:00,950 --> 00:35:58,240
who told me about

928
00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:00,960
a a woman that came from the stars and

929
00:36:06,630 --> 00:36:03,760
she ruled this whole tribe

930
00:36:09,109 --> 00:36:06,640
of the giants and they lived on this

931
00:36:11,589 --> 00:36:09,119
island and they were very happy and

932
00:36:13,270 --> 00:36:11,599
and she set the stage for how people

933
00:36:15,589 --> 00:36:13,280
were to live and she gave them the

934
00:36:18,150 --> 00:36:15,599
knowledge and then then they started

935
00:36:21,589 --> 00:36:18,160
fighting among themselves

936
00:36:23,589 --> 00:36:21,599
and so she separated the island and sent

937
00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:23,599
those who were discordant and causing

938
00:36:28,550 --> 00:36:26,400
trouble away and they were all killed in

939
00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:28,560
a in a hurricane

940
00:36:35,030 --> 00:36:32,000
and the other the others uh lived i mean

941
00:36:36,069 --> 00:36:35,040
it's just amazing how many stories there

942
00:36:38,310 --> 00:36:36,079
there are

943
00:36:40,630 --> 00:36:38,320
out there about women who come from the

944
00:36:42,069 --> 00:36:40,640
stars and teach the people let's talk

945
00:36:44,470 --> 00:36:42,079
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946
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1044
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1045
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1047
00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:34,390
interesting here that so many of these

1048
00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:36,640
legends talk about women

1049
00:41:40,790 --> 00:41:39,040
as we argued today about whether

1050
00:41:43,030 --> 00:41:40,800
a woman can be

1051
00:41:43,829 --> 00:41:43,040
a leader or president or etc

1052
00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:43,839
so

1053
00:41:50,470 --> 00:41:48,560
in many parts of the world

1054
00:41:52,230 --> 00:41:50,480
how does this strike people

1055
00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:52,240
what do you mean how does it strike

1056
00:41:56,710 --> 00:41:55,440
people the presence of women

1057
00:41:58,630 --> 00:41:56,720
as leaders

1058
00:42:02,550 --> 00:41:58,640
well i think in the native community

1059
00:42:04,470 --> 00:42:02,560
yeah most of them are naturally

1060
00:42:07,109 --> 00:42:04,480
the interesting thing about the lakota

1061
00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:07,119
zoo is they are a patriarchal society

1062
00:42:11,030 --> 00:42:09,680
and yet a woman brought them

1063
00:42:13,190 --> 00:42:11,040
the knowledge

1064
00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:13,200
but if you go to other tribes who are

1065
00:42:18,790 --> 00:42:16,480
matriarchal societies you know you look

1066
00:42:21,510 --> 00:42:18,800
at the cherokee i mean wilma mankiller

1067
00:42:23,430 --> 00:42:21,520
was a principal chief of the cherokees

1068
00:42:26,950 --> 00:42:23,440
in oklahoma you know

1069
00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:26,960
women have always held a much

1070
00:42:31,430 --> 00:42:29,280
more important role in matriarchal

1071
00:42:32,710 --> 00:42:31,440
society so i think it's which every

1072
00:42:34,630 --> 00:42:32,720
group you know

1073
00:42:36,710 --> 00:42:34,640
all indian tribes are not the same and

1074
00:42:38,790 --> 00:42:36,720
they're not organized in the same manner

1075
00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:38,800
and their traditions and histories are

1076
00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:40,240
very different

1077
00:42:42,950 --> 00:42:42,160
now look at these traditions we see them

1078
00:42:44,630 --> 00:42:42,960
among

1079
00:42:45,589 --> 00:42:44,640
native americans what about around the

1080
00:42:46,630 --> 00:42:45,599
world

1081
00:42:49,430 --> 00:42:46,640
any other

1082
00:42:52,150 --> 00:42:49,440
civilizations have recollections of

1083
00:42:54,870 --> 00:42:52,160
certainly the maya do you know the maya

1084
00:42:57,270 --> 00:42:54,880
do and and like i said throughout south

1085
00:42:59,910 --> 00:42:57,280
america i've met tribes that

1086
00:43:02,230 --> 00:42:59,920
have very strong i mean to even tell

1087
00:43:03,349 --> 00:43:02,240
stories of warriors who came from the

1088
00:43:06,309 --> 00:43:03,359
sky and

1089
00:43:08,710 --> 00:43:06,319
in these metal contraptions and did all

1090
00:43:11,349 --> 00:43:08,720
sorts of things on the land

1091
00:43:12,710 --> 00:43:11,359
very vivid descriptions of of these

1092
00:43:15,670 --> 00:43:12,720
individuals and

1093
00:43:18,390 --> 00:43:15,680
and who carried uh weapons that

1094
00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:18,400
shot light and beams you know their

1095
00:43:21,990 --> 00:43:20,480
stories of of

1096
00:43:24,390 --> 00:43:22,000
individuals

1097
00:43:26,470 --> 00:43:24,400
the men with lightning eyes

1098
00:43:29,430 --> 00:43:26,480
men who were able to shoot fire from

1099
00:43:31,430 --> 00:43:29,440
their eyes at a target and destroy it

1100
00:43:33,349 --> 00:43:31,440
i mean you know i could just go on and

1101
00:43:35,829 --> 00:43:33,359
on about the different kinds of stories

1102
00:43:37,589 --> 00:43:35,839
that i've collected

1103
00:43:38,870 --> 00:43:37,599
now this is such an unfortunate thing

1104
00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:38,880
here because

1105
00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:41,040
a lot of people have no such thing as

1106
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:42,240
any

1107
00:43:46,710 --> 00:43:44,560
tradition

1108
00:43:49,030 --> 00:43:46,720
stories being passed down

1109
00:43:51,910 --> 00:43:49,040
across generations certainly i think of

1110
00:43:54,470 --> 00:43:51,920
myself for example my parents

1111
00:43:57,510 --> 00:43:54,480
came from east europe

1112
00:44:00,950 --> 00:43:57,520
the only memory i have

1113
00:44:03,190 --> 00:44:00,960
of these families is my grandparents

1114
00:44:05,510 --> 00:44:03,200
my grandparents barely spoke english

1115
00:44:08,550 --> 00:44:05,520
never conveyed to me anything about

1116
00:44:11,510 --> 00:44:08,560
their families their histories what led

1117
00:44:14,710 --> 00:44:11,520
them to come from russia or austria to

1118
00:44:16,150 --> 00:44:14,720
america at the turn of the 20th century

1119
00:44:17,750 --> 00:44:16,160
and all that

1120
00:44:19,990 --> 00:44:17,760
is gone

1121
00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:20,000
it's missing we don't know i have no

1122
00:44:23,430 --> 00:44:21,280
idea

1123
00:44:25,910 --> 00:44:23,440
about anything involving my family

1124
00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:25,920
before the early 20th century

1125
00:44:30,390 --> 00:44:27,760
well don't you think there's a you know

1126
00:44:32,069 --> 00:44:30,400
i always look at that and and have

1127
00:44:33,990 --> 00:44:32,079
thought about that and one of the things

1128
00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:34,000
that conclusions that i've drawn from

1129
00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:35,440
that is

1130
00:44:40,309 --> 00:44:38,079
you know your grandparents came here to

1131
00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:40,319
become americans

1132
00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:44,160
they left everything behind that had

1133
00:44:47,829 --> 00:44:46,240
made them flee

1134
00:44:50,309 --> 00:44:47,839
eastern europe

1135
00:44:52,309 --> 00:44:50,319
but american indians didn't come here to

1136
00:44:54,230 --> 00:44:52,319
be americans they were

1137
00:44:57,750 --> 00:44:54,240
americans

1138
00:44:58,950 --> 00:44:57,760
result

1139
00:45:02,390 --> 00:44:58,960
they've been

1140
00:45:06,150 --> 00:45:02,400
able to hold on to all of those stories

1141
00:45:07,510 --> 00:45:06,160
that make them unique on this planet

1142
00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:07,520
where your

1143
00:45:12,870 --> 00:45:09,839
grandparents came here to change all

1144
00:45:14,870 --> 00:45:12,880
that they wanted to become americans

1145
00:45:17,270 --> 00:45:14,880
and i think when you do that when you

1146
00:45:19,349 --> 00:45:17,280
flee one place and not so much today of

1147
00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:19,359
the new immigrants because there seems

1148
00:45:22,630 --> 00:45:21,280
to be an awful lot of the new immigrants

1149
00:45:24,150 --> 00:45:22,640
who are building their own little

1150
00:45:26,710 --> 00:45:24,160
conclaves

1151
00:45:29,270 --> 00:45:26,720
in cities and you know like you'll find

1152
00:45:31,670 --> 00:45:29,280
an iranian section you'll find an indian

1153
00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:31,680
section you'll find you know um and i'm

1154
00:45:36,470 --> 00:45:34,000
talking about india indian

1155
00:45:38,309 --> 00:45:36,480
but but they group themselves together

1156
00:45:41,109 --> 00:45:38,319
they keep their languages they keep

1157
00:45:42,550 --> 00:45:41,119
their religious practices whereas the

1158
00:45:44,829 --> 00:45:42,560
early

1159
00:45:47,670 --> 00:45:44,839
immigrants to this country didn't do

1160
00:45:49,829 --> 00:45:47,680
that because they were coming from parts

1161
00:45:51,990 --> 00:45:49,839
of the world where they wanted to

1162
00:45:53,510 --> 00:45:52,000
to better their lives

1163
00:45:56,069 --> 00:45:53,520
so they didn't want to bring that old

1164
00:45:58,390 --> 00:45:56,079
way with him they wanted a new way

1165
00:46:00,630 --> 00:45:58,400
so they therefore were happy

1166
00:46:01,829 --> 00:46:00,640
to forget what happened before because

1167
00:46:03,670 --> 00:46:01,839
it was something that was pretty

1168
00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:03,680
miserable for them

1169
00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:06,400
i try to try to figure out why did this

1170
00:46:10,710 --> 00:46:09,040
happen you know why is it that all of

1171
00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:10,720
those stories and you know they had to

1172
00:46:15,750 --> 00:46:12,960
have all kinds of stories

1173
00:46:17,829 --> 00:46:15,760
you know my husband is is is part polish

1174
00:46:19,589 --> 00:46:17,839
in fact he was born in poland and he

1175
00:46:21,589 --> 00:46:19,599
often talks about the stories his

1176
00:46:23,990 --> 00:46:21,599
grandparents taught him

1177
00:46:26,470 --> 00:46:24,000
but i think part of it is because you

1178
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:26,480
know he's married to me and he figures

1179
00:46:31,190 --> 00:46:29,280
it because i value those old stories and

1180
00:46:33,390 --> 00:46:31,200
those traditions so much

1181
00:46:35,990 --> 00:46:33,400
that that you know he often

1182
00:46:38,390 --> 00:46:36,000
spontaneously shares something you know

1183
00:46:43,510 --> 00:46:38,400
from that he learned from his his

1184
00:46:48,309 --> 00:46:45,750
lived the old ways you know out in the

1185
00:46:50,950 --> 00:46:48,319
country in poland and survived

1186
00:46:53,109 --> 00:46:50,960
um world war ii you know

1187
00:46:55,829 --> 00:46:53,119
well the difference of course is also

1188
00:46:57,270 --> 00:46:55,839
that when i was young

1189
00:47:01,030 --> 00:46:57,280
families all

1190
00:47:03,670 --> 00:47:01,040
lived each other's lives so for example

1191
00:47:04,630 --> 00:47:03,680
my mother's parents owned a four-family

1192
00:47:06,790 --> 00:47:04,640
house

1193
00:47:07,829 --> 00:47:06,800
three units of which were occupied by

1194
00:47:17,349 --> 00:47:07,839
her

1195
00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:17,359
even though they led separate lives less

1196
00:47:21,670 --> 00:47:19,440
so on my father's side and part of the

1197
00:47:24,550 --> 00:47:21,680
reason is that his mother died when he

1198
00:47:25,750 --> 00:47:24,560
was 19. at which point his father said

1199
00:47:27,670 --> 00:47:25,760
to him

1200
00:47:29,030 --> 00:47:27,680
and his brother

1201
00:47:30,069 --> 00:47:29,040
you're old enough to work get out of

1202
00:47:31,190 --> 00:47:30,079
here

1203
00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:31,200
literally

1204
00:47:34,069 --> 00:47:33,040
they were sent off to

1205
00:47:36,069 --> 00:47:34,079
find

1206
00:47:37,349 --> 00:47:36,079
their futures for themselves so

1207
00:47:41,510 --> 00:47:37,359
obviously there was no talking there

1208
00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:41,520
there was no opportunity to to talk to

1209
00:47:46,150 --> 00:47:43,920
my father's father my grandfather and

1210
00:47:47,030 --> 00:47:46,160
when i actually did meet him he was very

1211
00:47:48,870 --> 00:47:47,040
ill

1212
00:47:51,270 --> 00:47:48,880
mostly bedridden and hardly in a

1213
00:47:53,430 --> 00:47:51,280
position to tell me about his life

1214
00:47:55,270 --> 00:47:53,440
and what led him to america

1215
00:47:57,270 --> 00:47:55,280
with the problem with

1216
00:48:00,470 --> 00:47:57,280
my mother's parents is that again the

1217
00:48:03,430 --> 00:48:00,480
language difficulty and i was very young

1218
00:48:06,069 --> 00:48:03,440
so in many ways i'd be in curious about

1219
00:48:07,109 --> 00:48:06,079
them i knew a few things but not very

1220
00:48:09,190 --> 00:48:07,119
much

1221
00:48:11,270 --> 00:48:09,200
and at the point in time where i might

1222
00:48:13,430 --> 00:48:11,280
have become curious

1223
00:48:17,109 --> 00:48:13,440
long after they're gone so their

1224
00:48:18,870 --> 00:48:17,119
histories are basically history now in

1225
00:48:20,550 --> 00:48:18,880
saying that

1226
00:48:23,190 --> 00:48:20,560
some of my cousins have made an effort

1227
00:48:25,349 --> 00:48:23,200
to kind of put together a family history

1228
00:48:27,750 --> 00:48:25,359
so i have photos of my

1229
00:48:29,829 --> 00:48:27,760
grandfather my father's father

1230
00:48:31,510 --> 00:48:29,839
in the 1920s

1231
00:48:33,430 --> 00:48:31,520
and his mother and you could look at

1232
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:33,440
that and see gee he looks kind of like

1233
00:48:36,230 --> 00:48:35,280
my father and maybe somewhat resembles

1234
00:48:38,390 --> 00:48:36,240
me

1235
00:48:40,790 --> 00:48:38,400
but that's all i know

1236
00:48:42,549 --> 00:48:40,800
well and i think that's common you know

1237
00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:42,559
throughout

1238
00:48:47,430 --> 00:48:44,880
the backgrounds of of the immigrants

1239
00:48:49,670 --> 00:48:47,440
that came to america up until perhaps

1240
00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:49,680
the 1960s

1241
00:48:53,349 --> 00:48:52,079
that people were coming here to start a

1242
00:48:55,829 --> 00:48:53,359
new life

1243
00:48:59,430 --> 00:48:55,839
and therefore

1244
00:49:01,430 --> 00:48:59,440
the old ways were set aside so to speak

1245
00:49:03,670 --> 00:49:01,440
and even their children you know

1246
00:49:05,349 --> 00:49:03,680
reinforce that they'd say oh mom and dad

1247
00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:05,359
you're just old-fashioned you know you

1248
00:49:11,589 --> 00:49:07,680
got to be americans

1249
00:49:14,150 --> 00:49:11,599
but now you know it's uh

1250
00:49:15,829 --> 00:49:14,160
you know where indians are concerned

1251
00:49:17,670 --> 00:49:15,839
passing on those stories are very

1252
00:49:18,870 --> 00:49:17,680
important because they consider it their

1253
00:49:22,230 --> 00:49:18,880
history

1254
00:49:24,069 --> 00:49:22,240
and the passing on the legends and

1255
00:49:26,549 --> 00:49:24,079
you find in tribes that have lost so

1256
00:49:28,870 --> 00:49:26,559
much of their language you know

1257
00:49:31,430 --> 00:49:28,880
a real um

1258
00:49:33,829 --> 00:49:31,440
determination to keep those stories and

1259
00:49:36,069 --> 00:49:33,839
to keep their language alive and they're

1260
00:49:38,069 --> 00:49:36,079
doing all sorts of things both in the

1261
00:49:40,390 --> 00:49:38,079
school and in the home to

1262
00:49:43,109 --> 00:49:40,400
um to maintain

1263
00:49:45,750 --> 00:49:43,119
and restore

1264
00:49:46,710 --> 00:49:45,760
uh so that future generations will know

1265
00:49:49,349 --> 00:49:46,720
that

1266
00:49:50,950 --> 00:49:49,359
you know we look at it as as

1267
00:49:52,710 --> 00:49:50,960
it's who we are

1268
00:49:55,190 --> 00:49:52,720
our stories tell

1269
00:49:56,470 --> 00:49:55,200
about who we are they tell where we've

1270
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:56,480
been and where

1271
00:50:02,549 --> 00:50:00,240
where we will go and so it is that part

1272
00:50:04,549 --> 00:50:02,559
of our history is really important

1273
00:50:06,710 --> 00:50:04,559
well i'm seeing you know some of the

1274
00:50:09,750 --> 00:50:06,720
tendency of people to want to do that we

1275
00:50:10,950 --> 00:50:09,760
have like a site called ancestry.com

1276
00:50:13,430 --> 00:50:10,960
where you can look up your family

1277
00:50:15,270 --> 00:50:13,440
history it's a real renewal yeah people

1278
00:50:16,790 --> 00:50:15,280
wanting to do that and then there's

1279
00:50:18,790 --> 00:50:16,800
another

1280
00:50:22,230 --> 00:50:18,800
product or service that you can get from

1281
00:50:23,750 --> 00:50:22,240
many places where you get dna tests

1282
00:50:25,349 --> 00:50:23,760
it's not to see

1283
00:50:27,109 --> 00:50:25,359
who your father was or something like

1284
00:50:28,390 --> 00:50:27,119
that although those are available it is

1285
00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:28,400
to find

1286
00:50:30,230 --> 00:50:29,200
your

1287
00:50:32,870 --> 00:50:30,240
genetic

1288
00:50:35,589 --> 00:50:32,880
information to see where you fit

1289
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:35,599
well in the background

1290
00:50:39,349 --> 00:50:36,960
they actually have commercialized

1291
00:50:41,109 --> 00:50:39,359
surprised oh yeah you did tell us

1292
00:50:41,910 --> 00:50:41,119
briefly about that in our next segment

1293
00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:41,920
because

1294
00:50:44,230 --> 00:50:43,440
this is fascinating and we'll get back

1295
00:50:46,630 --> 00:50:44,240
to

1296
00:50:47,990 --> 00:50:46,640
searching for star people

1297
00:50:49,510 --> 00:50:48,000
and that is

1298
00:50:51,589 --> 00:50:49,520
we want to first tell you though that we

1299
00:50:53,349 --> 00:50:51,599
have a second radio show called after

1300
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so we've got a lot more to talk about

1308
00:51:15,190 --> 00:51:13,599
with artie six killer clark once again

1309
00:51:17,990 --> 00:51:15,200
the book is from

1310
00:51:20,390 --> 00:51:18,000
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1311
00:51:24,230 --> 00:51:20,400
and it's called more encounters with

1312
00:51:25,750 --> 00:51:24,240
star people urban american indians tell

1313
00:51:27,510 --> 00:51:25,760
their stories

1314
00:51:29,349 --> 00:51:27,520
and fascinating stories they appear to

1315
00:51:31,589 --> 00:51:29,359
be and of course as we progress through

1316
00:51:33,750 --> 00:51:31,599
this session we'll have questions that

1317
00:51:35,109 --> 00:51:33,760
our listeners asked in

1318
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1319
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1320
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1326
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1327
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1328
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1329
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1330
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1331
00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:12,319
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1332
00:52:15,750 --> 00:52:14,640
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1333
00:52:17,910 --> 00:52:15,760
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1334
00:52:19,829 --> 00:52:17,920
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1335
00:52:22,549 --> 00:52:19,839
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1336
00:52:25,030 --> 00:52:22,559
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1337
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1338
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1345
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1354
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1355
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1356
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1357
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1358
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1359
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1361
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1362
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1366
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1377
00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:09,990
welcome back to the paracast the gold

1378
00:54:14,870 --> 00:54:13,680
standard of paranormal radio

1379
00:54:21,910 --> 00:54:14,880
and now

1380
00:54:25,430 --> 00:54:23,990
so as i was talking in the previous

1381
00:54:27,030 --> 00:54:25,440
segment about the fact that more and

1382
00:54:29,510 --> 00:54:27,040
more people want to learn about their

1383
00:54:32,150 --> 00:54:29,520
family histories not so far as oral

1384
00:54:34,710 --> 00:54:32,160
traditions as to whether

1385
00:54:36,390 --> 00:54:34,720
certain events happen to their families

1386
00:54:38,710 --> 00:54:36,400
or encounters with

1387
00:54:41,349 --> 00:54:38,720
unusual beings but just to know who

1388
00:54:43,990 --> 00:54:41,359
their ancestors were and we have those

1389
00:54:45,670 --> 00:54:44,000
genetic tests that determine your makeup

1390
00:54:48,230 --> 00:54:45,680
chris you had that done to you at one

1391
00:54:51,030 --> 00:54:48,240
time you know i did because um i was

1392
00:54:52,710 --> 00:54:51,040
adopted at age five along with my one of

1393
00:54:53,990 --> 00:54:52,720
my brothers

1394
00:54:55,030 --> 00:54:54,000
one of four

1395
00:54:57,030 --> 00:54:55,040
of us

1396
00:54:59,109 --> 00:54:57,040
um i've always been very intrigued about

1397
00:55:00,870 --> 00:54:59,119
my my genetic background because i

1398
00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:00,880
really didn't have that much knowledge

1399
00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:03,760
about you know my family on my my

1400
00:55:08,309 --> 00:55:06,400
biological parents side so

1401
00:55:11,270 --> 00:55:08,319
you know now with the advent of

1402
00:55:13,270 --> 00:55:11,280
affordable dna testing i went ahead and

1403
00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:13,280
did the uh the suave on the inside of

1404
00:55:17,190 --> 00:55:15,040
the cheek the saliva test and sent it

1405
00:55:19,430 --> 00:55:17,200
off to ancestry.com and

1406
00:55:20,790 --> 00:55:19,440
i had been told

1407
00:55:23,910 --> 00:55:20,800
by my

1408
00:55:25,510 --> 00:55:23,920
half-brother who i was reunited with

1409
00:55:27,910 --> 00:55:25,520
after many years

1410
00:55:32,950 --> 00:55:31,510
my father had managed when he got out of

1411
00:55:35,829 --> 00:55:32,960
prison

1412
00:55:37,589 --> 00:55:35,839
had managed to um establish that he was

1413
00:55:38,950 --> 00:55:37,599
one quarter cherokee

1414
00:55:41,430 --> 00:55:38,960
and um

1415
00:55:43,109 --> 00:55:41,440
as a result of that um my half-sister

1416
00:55:45,349 --> 00:55:43,119
was able to go to stanford university

1417
00:55:47,349 --> 00:55:45,359
and have her education paid for

1418
00:55:49,670 --> 00:55:47,359
so i've always you know since i found

1419
00:55:51,349 --> 00:55:49,680
out this this information in 2001 i've

1420
00:55:53,270 --> 00:55:51,359
been very intrigued about the

1421
00:55:56,230 --> 00:55:53,280
possibility of having native american

1422
00:55:58,710 --> 00:55:56,240
ancestry in my my genetic makeup so i

1423
00:56:01,990 --> 00:55:58,720
went ahead and did the test and when it

1424
00:56:03,750 --> 00:56:02,000
came back i was absolutely amazed

1425
00:56:06,390 --> 00:56:03,760
number one i had absolutely no native

1426
00:56:07,750 --> 00:56:06,400
american in me uh

1427
00:56:10,870 --> 00:56:07,760
and number two

1428
00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:10,880
it turns out that uh i'm more british

1429
00:56:18,309 --> 00:56:16,870
i'm saying what

1430
00:56:19,589 --> 00:56:18,319
i'm 70

1431
00:56:21,990 --> 00:56:19,599
english

1432
00:56:23,990 --> 00:56:22,000
with uh 17

1433
00:56:26,470 --> 00:56:24,000
uh iberian which i guess would be the

1434
00:56:29,510 --> 00:56:26,480
spanish for portuguese or basque

1435
00:56:32,150 --> 00:56:29,520
uh one percent finish one percent uh

1436
00:56:33,589 --> 00:56:32,160
russian eastern european

1437
00:56:39,589 --> 00:56:33,599
one percent

1438
00:56:41,349 --> 00:56:39,599
that goes way back to uh

1439
00:56:43,750 --> 00:56:41,359
your father must not have been your

1440
00:56:45,910 --> 00:56:43,760
father if he said he was he had proved

1441
00:56:50,470 --> 00:56:45,920
that he was one fourth cherokee

1442
00:56:54,789 --> 00:56:51,910
you would have had to inherit some of

1443
00:56:56,789 --> 00:56:54,799
that if he truly were your father right

1444
00:56:59,750 --> 00:56:56,799
you would think so but he also probably

1445
00:57:02,309 --> 00:56:59,760
had a good good line of gab

1446
00:57:03,829 --> 00:57:02,319
was able to fast talk his way into

1447
00:57:05,670 --> 00:57:03,839
getting his uh

1448
00:57:06,549 --> 00:57:05,680
you know being getting his card so to

1449
00:57:07,990 --> 00:57:06,559
speak

1450
00:57:09,670 --> 00:57:08,000
as it turns out

1451
00:57:10,549 --> 00:57:09,680
to me that your sister would be able to

1452
00:57:12,309 --> 00:57:10,559
go to

1453
00:57:14,630 --> 00:57:12,319
college because she would that would

1454
00:57:16,950 --> 00:57:14,640
mean she would only be one-eighth and

1455
00:57:18,549 --> 00:57:16,960
i bet i know a lot of native americans

1456
00:57:19,990 --> 00:57:18,559
would like to know how you do that

1457
00:57:22,950 --> 00:57:20,000
because

1458
00:57:25,910 --> 00:57:22,960
you're not eligible for

1459
00:57:27,990 --> 00:57:25,920
college assistance not a full ride but

1460
00:57:29,589 --> 00:57:28,000
even college assistance unless you're a

1461
00:57:31,750 --> 00:57:29,599
quarter well

1462
00:57:34,390 --> 00:57:31,760
he must have uh pulled the fast one

1463
00:57:38,230 --> 00:57:34,400
somehow i i really don't know all the

1464
00:57:41,109 --> 00:57:38,240
details of how he managed to do that but

1465
00:57:42,470 --> 00:57:41,119
to find out that uh most uh brits are

1466
00:57:44,150 --> 00:57:42,480
only uh

1467
00:57:45,430 --> 00:57:44,160
you know most of them are less than 50

1468
00:57:47,510 --> 00:57:45,440
percent british

1469
00:57:50,950 --> 00:57:47,520
and to find out that i i was you know

1470
00:57:53,190 --> 00:57:50,960
had significantly more uh

1471
00:57:55,430 --> 00:57:53,200
i guess genetic uh background english

1472
00:57:56,630 --> 00:57:55,440
background in most uh you know native uh

1473
00:57:59,990 --> 00:57:56,640
britain's

1474
00:58:01,990 --> 00:58:00,000
uh was quite quite an eye-opener for me

1475
00:58:04,069 --> 00:58:02,000
but uh one thing that i do find very

1476
00:58:05,990 --> 00:58:04,079
interesting with the with the progress

1477
00:58:09,190 --> 00:58:06,000
of science and technology

1478
00:58:12,630 --> 00:58:09,200
is we're more and more able to establish

1479
00:58:16,230 --> 00:58:12,640
uh migration patterns uh when specific

1480
00:58:18,150 --> 00:58:16,240
peoples arrived in specific locations um

1481
00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:18,160
you know what sort of genetic makeup

1482
00:58:22,870 --> 00:58:20,640
went into you know what we now know as

1483
00:58:25,829 --> 00:58:22,880
let's say a native american tribe

1484
00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:25,839
for instance the zuni indians

1485
00:58:30,230 --> 00:58:27,680
based on what i know

1486
00:58:33,430 --> 00:58:30,240
have a connection with the ainu who are

1487
00:58:35,990 --> 00:58:33,440
the aboriginal people of japan

1488
00:58:39,109 --> 00:58:36,000
the mayans have polynesian in them and

1489
00:58:42,150 --> 00:58:39,119
and uh appear to have come by way of the

1490
00:58:43,990 --> 00:58:42,160
ocean uh from the west or not the maya

1491
00:58:46,789 --> 00:58:44,000
the hopi rather

1492
00:58:49,270 --> 00:58:46,799
so i think as we as we progress

1493
00:58:51,430 --> 00:58:49,280
in time and technology becomes more and

1494
00:58:53,430 --> 00:58:51,440
more affordable and accessible to people

1495
00:58:54,950 --> 00:58:53,440
i think we're going to establish some

1496
00:58:56,150 --> 00:58:54,960
very interesting

1497
00:58:57,910 --> 00:58:56,160
uh

1498
00:58:59,109 --> 00:58:57,920
you know patterns like i said of

1499
00:59:00,309 --> 00:58:59,119
migration

1500
00:59:01,670 --> 00:59:00,319
and uh

1501
00:59:04,309 --> 00:59:01,680
and how

1502
00:59:07,750 --> 00:59:04,319
the melting pot has uh eventuated into

1503
00:59:09,190 --> 00:59:07,760
what we we now know as as uh as

1504
00:59:12,870 --> 00:59:09,200
specific uh

1505
00:59:14,630 --> 00:59:12,880
uh identity uh groups here uh in north

1506
00:59:17,190 --> 00:59:14,640
america and i'm sure in south america as

1507
00:59:19,030 --> 00:59:17,200
well chris just a fast question

1508
00:59:20,230 --> 00:59:19,040
to throw in here all right so you're

1509
00:59:21,910 --> 00:59:20,240
saying that

1510
00:59:24,630 --> 00:59:21,920
most

1511
00:59:27,589 --> 00:59:24,640
british people

1512
00:59:29,670 --> 00:59:27,599
are less than 50 british

1513
00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:29,680
what's the rest is there a

1514
00:59:34,390 --> 00:59:32,400
tendency to be one thing or another i i

1515
00:59:36,309 --> 00:59:34,400
gather possibly the queen

1516
00:59:38,789 --> 00:59:36,319
the royal family there's a lot of german

1517
00:59:40,789 --> 00:59:38,799
in there isn't there yes and and also

1518
00:59:43,109 --> 00:59:40,799
because of the waves of uh

1519
00:59:46,150 --> 00:59:43,119
of of scandinavians that came from the

1520
00:59:48,150 --> 00:59:46,160
north the vikings um and also uh the

1521
00:59:50,630 --> 00:59:48,160
influx of of spanish

1522
00:59:52,630 --> 00:59:50,640
uh blood from uh let's say the sinking

1523
00:59:55,670 --> 00:59:52,640
of the spanish armada you're black irish

1524
00:59:58,230 --> 00:59:55,680
for instance uh a lot of their genealogy

1525
01:00:00,950 --> 00:59:58,240
uh in some sense could be traced back to

1526
01:00:03,829 --> 01:00:00,960
to uh you know to the iberian peninsula

1527
01:00:05,910 --> 01:00:03,839
which is quite common um so basically

1528
01:00:10,390 --> 01:00:05,920
what you're seeing with with genetic

1529
01:00:12,390 --> 01:00:10,400
information is uh waves of migration uh

1530
01:00:14,870 --> 01:00:12,400
that then genetically impact a

1531
01:00:15,670 --> 01:00:14,880
particular area and a particular people

1532
01:00:18,150 --> 01:00:15,680
and

1533
01:00:20,630 --> 01:00:18,160
to me it's very fascinating for instance

1534
01:00:22,069 --> 01:00:20,640
uh the scottish people have a legend of

1535
01:00:24,549 --> 01:00:22,079
queen scotia

1536
01:00:26,829 --> 01:00:24,559
who many believe was a daughter of

1537
01:00:31,030 --> 01:00:26,839
akhnatan an egyptian

1538
01:00:33,670 --> 01:00:31,040
so i'm fascinated by by this type of uh

1539
01:00:36,150 --> 01:00:33,680
scientific work and and um i i think

1540
01:00:39,910 --> 01:00:36,160
it's quite revealing uh again

1541
01:00:43,109 --> 01:00:39,920
how migrations of people end up

1542
01:00:45,750 --> 01:00:43,119
influencing uh the genetic makeup of of

1543
01:00:46,910 --> 01:00:45,760
what we would consider indigenous people

1544
01:00:49,750 --> 01:00:46,920
now

1545
01:00:52,309 --> 01:00:49,760
23andme.com and ancestry.com they offer

1546
01:00:53,990 --> 01:00:52,319
a service like this for 99

1547
01:00:55,750 --> 01:00:54,000
if you look online you might get for

1548
01:00:58,230 --> 01:00:55,760
less i have no idea about the quality of

1549
01:00:59,829 --> 01:00:58,240
the services i mean if someone wants to

1550
01:01:02,789 --> 01:00:59,839
buy me a genetic test we'll see what

1551
01:01:04,549 --> 01:01:02,799
happens maybe i'm 88 et or something and

1552
01:01:07,670 --> 01:01:04,559
that's an interesting question that kind

1553
01:01:09,510 --> 01:01:07,680
of hits me here as we talk about that

1554
01:01:10,950 --> 01:01:09,520
well there's definitely something weird

1555
01:01:15,190 --> 01:01:10,960
going on there and i'd love to know what

1556
01:01:18,230 --> 01:01:15,200
it is but artie are there legends of

1557
01:01:19,430 --> 01:01:18,240
interbreeding with star people and earth

1558
01:01:21,349 --> 01:01:19,440
people

1559
01:01:23,190 --> 01:01:21,359
well i i think there's some indication

1560
01:01:25,190 --> 01:01:23,200
that that has happened

1561
01:01:28,390 --> 01:01:25,200
you know one of the one of the stories

1562
01:01:30,870 --> 01:01:28,400
in my book is a story that talks about

1563
01:01:32,870 --> 01:01:30,880
um an elder who told me he said this

1564
01:01:34,870 --> 01:01:32,880
place was once their home

1565
01:01:37,270 --> 01:01:34,880
and i said well what do you mean and he

1566
01:01:40,390 --> 01:01:37,280
said well i've been told

1567
01:01:42,150 --> 01:01:40,400
by the the star travelers that they once

1568
01:01:45,510 --> 01:01:42,160
lived on earth

1569
01:01:47,109 --> 01:01:45,520
and no indication of why they left or

1570
01:01:49,030 --> 01:01:47,119
anything but you know one of the things

1571
01:01:51,750 --> 01:01:49,040
that goes through my mind when i hear

1572
01:01:54,710 --> 01:01:51,760
that what if at one time there was a

1573
01:01:57,270 --> 01:01:54,720
great civilization that lived on earth

1574
01:01:59,670 --> 01:01:57,280
and they were human beings and they

1575
01:02:01,430 --> 01:01:59,680
literally destroyed the earth and went

1576
01:02:03,349 --> 01:02:01,440
to another place

1577
01:02:05,510 --> 01:02:03,359
to another planet to live like we are

1578
01:02:07,150 --> 01:02:05,520
trying right now to go to mars and

1579
01:02:10,150 --> 01:02:07,160
develop a

1580
01:02:12,150 --> 01:02:10,160
thousand-person colony up there

1581
01:02:14,470 --> 01:02:12,160
you know you stop and think about some

1582
01:02:15,670 --> 01:02:14,480
of these stories that you've been told

1583
01:02:18,870 --> 01:02:15,680
you know

1584
01:02:21,670 --> 01:02:18,880
in in my book is also a story of an of a

1585
01:02:24,230 --> 01:02:21,680
90 90-year-old elder who told me

1586
01:02:27,510 --> 01:02:24,240
that she had been been abducted since

1587
01:02:30,069 --> 01:02:27,520
she was a child and she got so fed up

1588
01:02:32,470 --> 01:02:30,079
with it that at one point she demanded

1589
01:02:36,309 --> 01:02:32,480
to know why they were taking her and

1590
01:02:38,549 --> 01:02:36,319
they told her your dna is close to ours

1591
01:02:42,150 --> 01:02:38,559
so when you start talking about dna i

1592
01:02:44,390 --> 01:02:42,160
mean this was in 1974 and she well i was

1593
01:02:46,309 --> 01:02:44,400
visiting with her in her kitchen and she

1594
01:02:47,750 --> 01:02:46,319
got up and she went over to a drawer and

1595
01:02:49,670 --> 01:02:47,760
she pulled

1596
01:02:52,789 --> 01:02:49,680
pulled out this notebook and then the

1597
01:02:54,950 --> 01:02:52,799
notebook was an account of all the years

1598
01:02:56,950 --> 01:02:54,960
and her life and she had been keeping it

1599
01:02:59,430 --> 01:02:56,960
in the in the um

1600
01:03:00,950 --> 01:02:59,440
i don't know the late 50s or early 60s

1601
01:03:03,349 --> 01:03:00,960
and she'd write the year and then she

1602
01:03:08,309 --> 01:03:03,359
would write events that had gone on and

1603
01:03:11,910 --> 01:03:08,319
in this one on the page that said 1974

1604
01:03:14,110 --> 01:03:11,920
there were small letters dna

1605
01:03:15,990 --> 01:03:14,120
and a word m-a-u-l-e-q-u-l-e-s

1606
01:03:18,710 --> 01:03:16,000
[Music]

1607
01:03:20,309 --> 01:03:18,720
for molecules she said they explained it

1608
01:03:22,390 --> 01:03:20,319
to her but she didn't know anything

1609
01:03:23,910 --> 01:03:22,400
about it well if i've been living you

1610
01:03:26,630 --> 01:03:23,920
and i wouldn't have known anything about

1611
01:03:29,990 --> 01:03:26,640
it in 1974 either because the expression

1612
01:03:32,069 --> 01:03:30,000
or the term dna was not a popular term

1613
01:03:34,789 --> 01:03:32,079
but she had heard that

1614
01:03:37,750 --> 01:03:34,799
and had kept a record of that that her

1615
01:03:39,430 --> 01:03:37,760
dna was so similar to the star people

1616
01:03:42,390 --> 01:03:39,440
that that's why they kept coming back

1617
01:03:44,710 --> 01:03:42,400
and taking her we've got rd6 killer

1618
01:03:46,549 --> 01:03:44,720
clark joining us a lot more to talk

1619
01:03:49,349 --> 01:03:46,559
about and chris has a question to open

1620
01:03:54,490 --> 01:03:49,359
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[Music]

1729
01:08:27,269 --> 01:08:24,640
the book from arnie six killer clark

1730
01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:27,279
from anomalous books is more encounters

1731
01:08:32,070 --> 01:08:30,000
with star people urban american indians

1732
01:08:34,550 --> 01:08:32,080
tell their stories the book hasn't been

1733
01:08:36,870 --> 01:08:34,560
out long but she's received a number of

1734
01:08:39,030 --> 01:08:36,880
very very favorable reviews from readers

1735
01:08:40,789 --> 01:08:39,040
and i think the worst review and you've

1736
01:08:42,870 --> 01:08:40,799
got to be congratulated there because

1737
01:08:45,269 --> 01:08:42,880
this doesn't happen very often the worst

1738
01:08:46,149 --> 01:08:45,279
review is four stars not five

1739
01:08:47,510 --> 01:08:46,159
wow

1740
01:08:49,829 --> 01:08:47,520
that's excellent

1741
01:08:51,510 --> 01:08:49,839
well artie we we have questions that are

1742
01:08:53,829 --> 01:08:51,520
posted by our listeners at the question

1743
01:08:56,070 --> 01:08:53,839
bank where forum posters can ask

1744
01:08:58,709 --> 01:08:56,080
questions of our guests and this is a

1745
01:09:00,789 --> 01:08:58,719
good question from ronalway and he's

1746
01:09:03,189 --> 01:09:00,799
wondering um

1747
01:09:04,070 --> 01:09:03,199
i'll just read his question verbatim and

1748
01:09:06,229 --> 01:09:04,080
then

1749
01:09:08,309 --> 01:09:06,239
do a little follow-up here but do the

1750
01:09:09,510 --> 01:09:08,319
groups know why they were singled out by

1751
01:09:12,789 --> 01:09:09,520
the visitors

1752
01:09:14,550 --> 01:09:12,799
and are any still visited thanks

1753
01:09:15,590 --> 01:09:14,560
and what i'd like to kind of add on top

1754
01:09:17,829 --> 01:09:15,600
of that is

1755
01:09:19,189 --> 01:09:17,839
what percentage of

1756
01:09:22,070 --> 01:09:19,199
if you could put a number on it just

1757
01:09:23,349 --> 01:09:22,080
roughly what percentage of of stories

1758
01:09:27,510 --> 01:09:23,359
and legends

1759
01:09:29,910 --> 01:09:27,520
have a very specific rationale for why

1760
01:09:30,870 --> 01:09:29,920
uh they're being singled out by the star

1761
01:09:33,110 --> 01:09:30,880
people

1762
01:09:36,229 --> 01:09:33,120
and do you think that native americans

1763
01:09:38,870 --> 01:09:36,239
have more of a chance of of having these

1764
01:09:42,229 --> 01:09:38,880
experiences than your average anglo

1765
01:09:44,470 --> 01:09:42,239
well i think that native americans

1766
01:09:46,630 --> 01:09:44,480
not necessarily have more experiences

1767
01:09:49,829 --> 01:09:46,640
but i think anybody who lives in rural

1768
01:09:51,829 --> 01:09:49,839
or isolated areas are more likely to

1769
01:09:53,430 --> 01:09:51,839
have those experiences and if you look

1770
01:09:56,229 --> 01:09:53,440
at reservations

1771
01:09:58,709 --> 01:09:56,239
the majority of them at least in the in

1772
01:10:02,950 --> 01:09:58,719
in the western part of the united states

1773
01:10:05,189 --> 01:10:02,960
are in very isolated uh areas i think in

1774
01:10:07,910 --> 01:10:05,199
the tribal groups that speak

1775
01:10:09,590 --> 01:10:07,920
about star people and have many lessons

1776
01:10:12,550 --> 01:10:09,600
about star people there have been

1777
01:10:14,390 --> 01:10:12,560
interactions going on between them for

1778
01:10:16,870 --> 01:10:14,400
for centuries since the beginning of

1779
01:10:18,550 --> 01:10:16,880
time and i'm trying to remember what

1780
01:10:20,550 --> 01:10:18,560
ron's question was

1781
01:10:23,350 --> 01:10:20,560
well he's he's wondering why are they

1782
01:10:25,350 --> 01:10:23,360
singled out what what particularly

1783
01:10:26,630 --> 01:10:25,360
they were singled out you know

1784
01:10:29,430 --> 01:10:26,640
it may be

1785
01:10:30,709 --> 01:10:29,440
that they are the ancestors they i mean

1786
01:10:33,510 --> 01:10:30,719
they are the

1787
01:10:35,430 --> 01:10:33,520
they were the ancestors of the because

1788
01:10:38,390 --> 01:10:35,440
many of the tribes will describe them as

1789
01:10:39,830 --> 01:10:38,400
the ancestors the people who went before

1790
01:10:41,590 --> 01:10:39,840
i don't think they were necessarily

1791
01:10:43,830 --> 01:10:41,600
singled out it just happened to be that

1792
01:10:46,550 --> 01:10:43,840
they were the group you know there's a

1793
01:10:48,630 --> 01:10:46,560
there's an ancient story that's toba the

1794
01:10:49,910 --> 01:10:48,640
cherokee about the the young hunters

1795
01:10:50,790 --> 01:10:49,920
that went out

1796
01:10:52,630 --> 01:10:50,800
um

1797
01:10:54,390 --> 01:10:52,640
looking you know hunting for deer and

1798
01:10:57,990 --> 01:10:54,400
came upon

1799
01:11:00,630 --> 01:10:58,000
this silver circular craft in a meadow

1800
01:11:02,470 --> 01:11:00,640
and saw these little men and then they

1801
01:11:03,990 --> 01:11:02,480
went back to their elders and they said

1802
01:11:05,910 --> 01:11:04,000
what should we do

1803
01:11:08,229 --> 01:11:05,920
and so the elders and leaders of the

1804
01:11:09,189 --> 01:11:08,239
tribe went out and greeted them and

1805
01:11:11,110 --> 01:11:09,199
these

1806
01:11:14,790 --> 01:11:11,120
star people told them that well we're

1807
01:11:17,110 --> 01:11:14,800
here to to rest and to study and and so

1808
01:11:18,790 --> 01:11:17,120
it was agreed that they would the the

1809
01:11:20,790 --> 01:11:18,800
cherokee would teach them things and

1810
01:11:21,830 --> 01:11:20,800
they would they would teach the cherokee

1811
01:11:24,229 --> 01:11:21,840
things

1812
01:11:26,310 --> 01:11:24,239
and they lived there among them until

1813
01:11:28,149 --> 01:11:26,320
they their work was finished and they

1814
01:11:29,350 --> 01:11:28,159
decided to go home

1815
01:11:32,070 --> 01:11:29,360
and

1816
01:11:34,229 --> 01:11:32,080
the story is that they told the the

1817
01:11:35,830 --> 01:11:34,239
cherokee people that we will always

1818
01:11:38,470 --> 01:11:35,840
watch out for you

1819
01:11:41,270 --> 01:11:38,480
so over and over i've heard cherokee

1820
01:11:43,270 --> 01:11:41,280
people tell me hey you know when i saw

1821
01:11:46,070 --> 01:11:43,280
this i saw this

1822
01:11:48,149 --> 01:11:46,080
i had this encounter i was told as a

1823
01:11:49,990 --> 01:11:48,159
child that you know the star people

1824
01:11:51,030 --> 01:11:50,000
would always look out for me so i wasn't

1825
01:11:53,510 --> 01:11:51,040
afraid

1826
01:11:55,430 --> 01:11:53,520
because those stories were passed on

1827
01:11:57,669 --> 01:11:55,440
that you can expect to see them and when

1828
01:11:59,990 --> 01:11:57,679
you do see them do not don't be afraid

1829
01:12:01,030 --> 01:12:00,000
don't worry because they're here to look

1830
01:12:03,510 --> 01:12:01,040
out for you

1831
01:12:06,870 --> 01:12:03,520
what native american groups um that

1832
01:12:10,470 --> 01:12:06,880
you've uh become in contact with and and

1833
01:12:12,630 --> 01:12:10,480
collected stories which groups have uh

1834
01:12:14,630 --> 01:12:12,640
the richest tradition of that and in

1835
01:12:17,189 --> 01:12:14,640
other words uh

1836
01:12:18,709 --> 01:12:17,199
that particular this particular dynamic

1837
01:12:21,189 --> 01:12:18,719
is is

1838
01:12:23,590 --> 01:12:21,199
is uh really important

1839
01:12:25,430 --> 01:12:23,600
uh versus just people having experiences

1840
01:12:26,229 --> 01:12:25,440
and having it be more of a peripheral

1841
01:12:29,350 --> 01:12:26,239
thing

1842
01:12:31,990 --> 01:12:29,360
which cultures are most reliant on on

1843
01:12:34,070 --> 01:12:32,000
this particular body of

1844
01:12:36,550 --> 01:12:34,080
evidence in their in their culture

1845
01:12:40,709 --> 01:12:36,560
well i think that the the cherokees have

1846
01:12:42,070 --> 01:12:40,719
some of the the strongest stories the um

1847
01:12:43,590 --> 01:12:42,080
and of course as you mentioned the

1848
01:12:47,590 --> 01:12:43,600
lakota

1849
01:12:50,870 --> 01:12:47,600
um the chippewa cree certainly do the um

1850
01:12:53,189 --> 01:12:50,880
um there's just a number of different

1851
01:12:55,030 --> 01:12:53,199
travel groups some of them maybe only

1852
01:12:57,669 --> 01:12:55,040
have one or two stories

1853
01:13:01,430 --> 01:12:57,679
others can have a dozen stories so it

1854
01:13:03,750 --> 01:13:01,440
just depends on um but i think of the

1855
01:13:06,149 --> 01:13:03,760
southwest southeastern indian surprise

1856
01:13:08,870 --> 01:13:06,159
of cherokee have a have them the most

1857
01:13:13,750 --> 01:13:10,709
how about the uh the pueblo people and

1858
01:13:16,709 --> 01:13:13,760
the whole um idea of the kachina as a

1859
01:13:19,430 --> 01:13:16,719
representative representation of of star

1860
01:13:21,430 --> 01:13:19,440
people the various star people groups

1861
01:13:23,750 --> 01:13:21,440
well you know they're more closed about

1862
01:13:26,310 --> 01:13:23,760
their stories but obviously the kachina

1863
01:13:27,750 --> 01:13:26,320
is is uh you know

1864
01:13:29,350 --> 01:13:27,760
is

1865
01:13:31,030 --> 01:13:29,360
supposedly a

1866
01:13:33,590 --> 01:13:31,040
a sarbine

1867
01:13:34,550 --> 01:13:33,600
and i think that you find the same in

1868
01:13:39,510 --> 01:13:34,560
the

1869
01:13:41,750 --> 01:13:39,520
um

1870
01:13:43,350 --> 01:13:41,760
when the katina dances in the in the

1871
01:13:45,510 --> 01:13:43,360
plaza

1872
01:13:49,110 --> 01:13:45,520
and the blue star is seen in the sky you

1873
01:13:51,830 --> 01:13:49,120
know it's it's the warning that you know

1874
01:13:53,189 --> 01:13:51,840
their messiah is returning

1875
01:13:55,189 --> 01:13:53,199
just a fast

1876
01:13:58,070 --> 01:13:55,199
question here the similarity of these

1877
01:14:00,630 --> 01:13:58,080
legends are we thinking then at the time

1878
01:14:02,390 --> 01:14:00,640
towards the dawn of recorded history

1879
01:14:04,070 --> 01:14:02,400
that all these tribes really started

1880
01:14:05,990 --> 01:14:04,080
from one source

1881
01:14:07,590 --> 01:14:06,000
there was just one tribe that split up

1882
01:14:09,110 --> 01:14:07,600
over the years

1883
01:14:11,350 --> 01:14:09,120
i don't think so

1884
01:14:12,229 --> 01:14:11,360
i mean all you have to do is is look at

1885
01:14:13,590 --> 01:14:12,239
the

1886
01:14:15,110 --> 01:14:13,600
different crabs and you can see

1887
01:14:16,630 --> 01:14:15,120
different physical

1888
01:14:19,350 --> 01:14:16,640
oh yeah

1889
01:14:20,310 --> 01:14:19,360
differences you see different traditions

1890
01:14:25,430 --> 01:14:20,320
different

1891
01:14:27,910 --> 01:14:25,440
physical attributes

1892
01:14:29,990 --> 01:14:27,920
i understand that i understand that you

1893
01:14:32,229 --> 01:14:30,000
know you look at that here in montana

1894
01:14:34,630 --> 01:14:32,239
you know alone you know you have

1895
01:14:37,110 --> 01:14:34,640
certain tribes that are very tall

1896
01:14:39,430 --> 01:14:37,120
and others that aren't so tall at all

1897
01:14:41,910 --> 01:14:39,440
you know but but uh

1898
01:14:44,550 --> 01:14:41,920
um you know the lakota the black seed

1899
01:14:46,229 --> 01:14:44,560
and the crow are very tall people

1900
01:14:47,430 --> 01:14:46,239
but they're all talking a lot of them

1901
01:14:48,709 --> 01:14:47,440
are talking about

1902
01:14:51,110 --> 01:14:48,719
star people

1903
01:14:53,590 --> 01:14:51,120
do we assume it's all the same race that

1904
01:14:55,590 --> 01:14:53,600
interacted with all these tribes or

1905
01:14:57,669 --> 01:14:55,600
multiple stories are very different

1906
01:14:59,990 --> 01:14:57,679
okay they're not the same

1907
01:15:01,510 --> 01:15:00,000
key differences let's focus on this more

1908
01:15:02,550 --> 01:15:01,520
because i think our listeners like to

1909
01:15:04,470 --> 01:15:02,560
hear more

1910
01:15:06,790 --> 01:15:04,480
specific events what are the major

1911
01:15:07,750 --> 01:15:06,800
differences from tribe to tribe

1912
01:15:09,430 --> 01:15:07,760
in the

1913
01:15:10,709 --> 01:15:09,440
recollections of the encounters with

1914
01:15:12,950 --> 01:15:10,719
star people

1915
01:15:16,790 --> 01:15:12,960
well with some tribes there's more

1916
01:15:19,030 --> 01:15:16,800
shape-shifting individuals who come to

1917
01:15:21,430 --> 01:15:19,040
to the earth and and they transform

1918
01:15:23,270 --> 01:15:21,440
themselves into other shapes

1919
01:15:25,189 --> 01:15:23,280
that would be one

1920
01:15:27,830 --> 01:15:25,199
with some tribes there's more stories

1921
01:15:30,070 --> 01:15:27,840
about interaction with women

1922
01:15:31,830 --> 01:15:30,080
you know i'm not i'm not really prepared

1923
01:15:33,590 --> 01:15:31,840
this is because of this so i'm just

1924
01:15:35,669 --> 01:15:33,600
trying i'm trying to think on my feet

1925
01:15:39,030 --> 01:15:35,679
here what would be some of the

1926
01:15:40,790 --> 01:15:39,040
some of the um the differences um it's

1927
01:15:43,030 --> 01:15:40,800
no problem we're just trying to focus on

1928
01:15:46,470 --> 01:15:43,040
a lot of different areas right

1929
01:15:48,149 --> 01:15:46,480
yeah um there certainly are you know

1930
01:15:49,990 --> 01:15:48,159
different stories

1931
01:15:51,750 --> 01:15:50,000
and as you will

1932
01:15:54,149 --> 01:15:51,760
hopefully if i get my next book done

1933
01:15:56,870 --> 01:15:54,159
that you you know you'll definitely see

1934
01:15:59,430 --> 01:15:56,880
that because i'm trying to tell a wide

1935
01:16:00,550 --> 01:15:59,440
variety of the ancient legends the book

1936
01:16:03,510 --> 01:16:00,560
is called

1937
01:16:05,270 --> 01:16:03,520
more encounters with star people urban

1938
01:16:07,510 --> 01:16:05,280
american indians

1939
01:16:09,910 --> 01:16:07,520
tell their stories and our guest this

1940
01:16:12,070 --> 01:16:09,920
week is the author artie

1941
01:16:13,910 --> 01:16:12,080
6 killer clark

1942
01:16:15,910 --> 01:16:13,920
and one more thing don't forget to check

1943
01:16:17,590 --> 01:16:15,920
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01:16:34,470 --> 01:16:32,800
book excerpts lots more coming go to

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01:16:44,540 --> 01:16:40,070
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you're listening to the paracast the

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okay so coming as someone who hasn't

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been exposed to this tradition so much

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what do you think

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would be a good story to acquaint them

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with to give them an idea of what's been

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sure you know some early story

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i don't say it's a typical story because

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there probably aren't typical stories

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that represents

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a lasting effect on people

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okay well this story i've heard from

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many different travel groups the story

2081
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is always a little bit different but has

2082
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similar themes okay so i'll

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i'll tell you this story is that was

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told to me by an elder

2085
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this story talks about it say the legend

2086
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of of cloud catcher cloud catcher was a

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young man

2088
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growing up and it was time for him to

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have his coming-of-age kind of ceremony

2090
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that they have

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and

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he

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refused to participate

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and his parents were angry so angry with

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him to go through him out of their home

2096
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and so cloud catcher goes out into the

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night and he's sitting by the river and

2098
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he lays down in the grass and he falls

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asleep and suddenly he woke up when a

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strange bright light beamed down from

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the sky

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and as you look at it in amazement a

2103
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beautiful woman walked out of the light

2104
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and she says cloud catcher i've come for

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you

2106
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and as she turned away he felt

2107
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duty-bound to follow her

2108
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but instead of walking she began to fly

2109
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upward and suddenly cloud catcher

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realizes that once inside the light he

2111
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could also fly

2112
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so he ascended to the sky beside her and

2113
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when he looked down below he could see

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the dim light of earth while the stars

2115
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lit up the sky

2116
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when he finally came to he was in a land

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of crystal lakes and immense

2118
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lodges and he he woke up on a couch of

2119
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rich furs with the couch's arms cut from

2120
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jasper and tipped with silver and he was

2121
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amazed of what this world that he was in

2122
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because it was so unfamiliar to him and

2123
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while he was gazing around him the

2124
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brother of the young guy woman who had

2125
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taken him

2126
01:23:36,790 --> 01:23:34,400
walked into the room and saw him and he

2127
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described the brother as being tall and

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so dazzling and gold and silver

2129
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ornaments

2130
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that he could hardly look at him but

2131
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when the brothers saw cloud catcher he

2132
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was angry he told his sister you have to

2133
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send him back to earth

2134
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he cannot stay here among us

2135
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we don't want him here so she told her

2136
01:23:57,430 --> 01:23:54,639
no

2137
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cloud catcher is going to be my husband

2138
01:24:01,110 --> 01:23:59,440
and despite her brother's worries within

2139
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days they were married and the two of

2140
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them so much in love thought they would

2141
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live happily ever after

2142
01:24:08,950 --> 01:24:06,719
but as a time passed

2143
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the sight of earth made cloud catcher

2144
01:24:14,870 --> 01:24:11,840
very lonely and longing for his people

2145
01:24:16,709 --> 01:24:14,880
so he told his wife i want to go home

2146
01:24:19,510 --> 01:24:16,719
and she said but you have we have

2147
01:24:22,390 --> 01:24:19,520
children and he said i know but i want

2148
01:24:23,990 --> 01:24:22,400
to go home i miss my family too much

2149
01:24:26,310 --> 01:24:24,000
so she said well

2150
01:24:28,390 --> 01:24:26,320
you can go but if you're more pleased

2151
01:24:29,669 --> 01:24:28,400
with the hardships of earth

2152
01:24:31,590 --> 01:24:29,679
you can go

2153
01:24:34,550 --> 01:24:31,600
but i'm warning you

2154
01:24:37,750 --> 01:24:34,560
do not take an earth woman for your wife

2155
01:24:39,990 --> 01:24:37,760
and so he goes back to earth and

2156
01:24:41,590 --> 01:24:40,000
he the next morning he wakes up the door

2157
01:24:44,629 --> 01:24:41,600
of his father's house

2158
01:24:45,590 --> 01:24:44,639
his relatives gather around and welcome

2159
01:24:47,189 --> 01:24:45,600
him

2160
01:24:50,149 --> 01:24:47,199
and he learned that he had been in the

2161
01:24:52,149 --> 01:24:50,159
sky for many years and after a time

2162
01:24:55,430 --> 01:24:52,159
despite the warnings of his sky life

2163
01:24:57,590 --> 01:24:55,440
cloud catcher took an earth life

2164
01:24:59,510 --> 01:24:57,600
and in four days she was dead

2165
01:25:01,510 --> 01:24:59,520
well he unheated that lesson i'm married

2166
01:25:03,189 --> 01:25:01,520
again and this time his wife passed

2167
01:25:05,430 --> 01:25:03,199
within a week

2168
01:25:07,430 --> 01:25:05,440
not very nice the story goes shortly

2169
01:25:09,990 --> 01:25:07,440
thereafter cloud catcher stepped from

2170
01:25:11,189 --> 01:25:10,000
his lodge one evening and never came

2171
01:25:13,350 --> 01:25:11,199
back

2172
01:25:15,750 --> 01:25:13,360
and the people said that on that night

2173
01:25:16,629 --> 01:25:15,760
the woods were filled with strange

2174
01:25:18,629 --> 01:25:16,639
lights

2175
01:25:21,189 --> 01:25:18,639
and the valley the villagers believed

2176
01:25:22,229 --> 01:25:21,199
that cloud catcher's sky wife had come

2177
01:25:24,870 --> 01:25:22,239
for him

2178
01:25:26,390 --> 01:25:24,880
and that he lived out his life among the

2179
01:25:29,669 --> 01:25:26,400
star people

2180
01:25:32,629 --> 01:25:29,679
well they're from a lot of different

2181
01:25:35,590 --> 01:25:32,639
places as i understand i i wish i could

2182
01:25:37,910 --> 01:25:35,600
give you that answer

2183
01:25:40,070 --> 01:25:37,920
you say lots of different places what do

2184
01:25:42,149 --> 01:25:40,080
the legends say

2185
01:25:45,669 --> 01:25:42,159
well most of them don't even say

2186
01:25:46,470 --> 01:25:45,679
anything you know about the location uh

2187
01:25:49,270 --> 01:25:46,480
you know

2188
01:25:51,350 --> 01:25:49,280
the the ancient legends and even the the

2189
01:25:53,990 --> 01:25:51,360
contemporary stories that people tell me

2190
01:25:56,229 --> 01:25:54,000
they they rarely have the pleiades is

2191
01:26:00,950 --> 01:25:56,239
sometimes mentioned

2192
01:26:02,709 --> 01:26:00,960
know it's not a a common thing where

2193
01:26:04,470 --> 01:26:02,719
people seem to even be aware of where

2194
01:26:06,070 --> 01:26:04,480
they are

2195
01:26:08,709 --> 01:26:06,080
thing that i've noticed

2196
01:26:11,669 --> 01:26:08,719
in uh in my research and i've done quite

2197
01:26:14,310 --> 01:26:11,679
a bit of research in in this uh area

2198
01:26:16,229 --> 01:26:14,320
and um i have a very very close friend

2199
01:26:17,510 --> 01:26:16,239
who is a zuni elder

2200
01:26:19,270 --> 01:26:17,520
who has

2201
01:26:20,390 --> 01:26:19,280
opened up and told me some stuff that i

2202
01:26:22,149 --> 01:26:20,400
think

2203
01:26:24,709 --> 01:26:22,159
normally that someone like me wouldn't

2204
01:26:27,189 --> 01:26:24,719
be told but one thing that i've noticed

2205
01:26:29,990 --> 01:26:27,199
is i have not encountered

2206
01:26:32,950 --> 01:26:30,000
any stories any traditions

2207
01:26:35,669 --> 01:26:32,960
that talk about planets as being

2208
01:26:38,709 --> 01:26:35,679
homes for these beings that it's always

2209
01:26:41,189 --> 01:26:38,719
referred to as uh further out uh in the

2210
01:26:43,750 --> 01:26:41,199
stars as opposed to something closer

2211
01:26:45,669 --> 01:26:43,760
let's say venus or one of the one of the

2212
01:26:46,709 --> 01:26:45,679
visible planets have you noticed that as

2213
01:26:48,149 --> 01:26:46,719
well

2214
01:26:50,790 --> 01:26:48,159
absolutely

2215
01:26:52,790 --> 01:26:50,800
you know they'll say well where was it

2216
01:26:54,470 --> 01:26:52,800
they'll say far from home

2217
01:26:55,270 --> 01:26:54,480
you know

2218
01:26:57,750 --> 01:26:55,280
so

2219
01:27:00,790 --> 01:26:58,790
chris

2220
01:27:03,189 --> 01:27:00,800
uh well that was just

2221
01:27:04,950 --> 01:27:03,199
just a kind of a comment or an

2222
01:27:07,910 --> 01:27:04,960
observation that i had

2223
01:27:10,229 --> 01:27:07,920
you would think that the visible planets

2224
01:27:11,669 --> 01:27:10,239
would generate some stories or legends

2225
01:27:13,590 --> 01:27:11,679
or have some sort of traditional

2226
01:27:15,030 --> 01:27:13,600
knowledge attached to them

2227
01:27:17,189 --> 01:27:15,040
you know like the greeks and the romans

2228
01:27:20,629 --> 01:27:17,199
and that sort of thing more traditional

2229
01:27:23,830 --> 01:27:20,639
uh miss from the western world but i

2230
01:27:25,270 --> 01:27:23,840
find it very curious and and intriguing

2231
01:27:27,030 --> 01:27:25,280
that at least

2232
01:27:28,870 --> 01:27:27,040
you know to my limited knowledge which

2233
01:27:30,870 --> 01:27:28,880
uh granted is more than most people's

2234
01:27:33,669 --> 01:27:30,880
but but not as much as someone like

2235
01:27:35,110 --> 01:27:33,679
artie i have not encountered a single

2236
01:27:38,310 --> 01:27:35,120
story that

2237
01:27:40,870 --> 01:27:38,320
would relate any of these beings to

2238
01:27:45,350 --> 01:27:40,880
any of the visible planets and i i find

2239
01:27:49,669 --> 01:27:47,830
you want to give us some examples of uh

2240
01:27:51,910 --> 01:27:49,679
of some urban encounters that we've had

2241
01:27:53,510 --> 01:27:51,920
in more recent times and how they

2242
01:27:55,030 --> 01:27:53,520
possibly uh

2243
01:27:57,430 --> 01:27:55,040
have

2244
01:27:59,430 --> 01:27:57,440
indications of similarities with some of

2245
01:28:02,629 --> 01:27:59,440
the older legends in stories or let's

2246
01:28:05,350 --> 01:28:02,639
say are dissimilar

2247
01:28:08,950 --> 01:28:05,360
well i have um

2248
01:28:10,870 --> 01:28:08,960
a story that i was i was recently told

2249
01:28:13,750 --> 01:28:10,880
by

2250
01:28:18,390 --> 01:28:13,760
a young man that i i was invited to a to

2251
01:28:20,790 --> 01:28:18,400
a big family uh gathering reunion uh

2252
01:28:22,870 --> 01:28:20,800
i suppose you would call it

2253
01:28:25,590 --> 01:28:22,880
and um

2254
01:28:28,229 --> 01:28:25,600
i met this this man he was middle-aged

2255
01:28:30,870 --> 01:28:28,239
and who told me that when he was in

2256
01:28:33,270 --> 01:28:30,880
college that

2257
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over a break that they had in school

2258
01:28:37,270 --> 01:28:35,120
that that

2259
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it was too short to go home and too long

2260
01:28:41,189 --> 01:28:38,480
to stay

2261
01:28:43,430 --> 01:28:41,199
in the dorms so he decided that he was

2262
01:28:44,870 --> 01:28:43,440
going to take his trip to the seattle

2263
01:28:46,550 --> 01:28:44,880
space needle

2264
01:28:48,149 --> 01:28:46,560
and he said they had gone there when he

2265
01:28:50,709 --> 01:28:48,159
was in high school and

2266
01:28:52,790 --> 01:28:50,719
and he wanted to eat

2267
01:28:54,709 --> 01:28:52,800
lunch in the space needle because when

2268
01:28:57,910 --> 01:28:54,719
he was a kid he didn't have the money to

2269
01:29:00,229 --> 01:28:57,920
do that so he set off and and

2270
01:29:02,950 --> 01:29:00,239
was literally abducted

2271
01:29:06,629 --> 01:29:02,960
um he told me about having

2272
01:29:09,189 --> 01:29:06,639
sex with a female entity

2273
01:29:12,390 --> 01:29:09,199
and that over the next several years he

2274
01:29:15,430 --> 01:29:12,400
had repeated abductions until he

2275
01:29:18,390 --> 01:29:15,440
actually fathered six children

2276
01:29:20,390 --> 01:29:18,400
and he said that today he is still he

2277
01:29:22,550 --> 01:29:20,400
still goes to that

2278
01:29:24,950 --> 01:29:22,560
to that

2279
01:29:25,750 --> 01:29:24,960
planet i guess you would call it

2280
01:29:30,950 --> 01:29:25,760
he

2281
01:29:33,510 --> 01:29:30,960
knows his children his children are

2282
01:29:37,430 --> 01:29:33,520
highly regarded because they are the

2283
01:29:40,310 --> 01:29:37,440
product of an earth father and um

2284
01:29:42,950 --> 01:29:40,320
and a star woman and they

2285
01:29:44,390 --> 01:29:42,960
have a high place in the hierarchy of

2286
01:29:48,070 --> 01:29:44,400
the

2287
01:29:50,070 --> 01:29:48,080
on that planet

2288
01:29:54,310 --> 01:29:50,080
and they are unique and that they can

2289
01:29:59,910 --> 01:29:54,320
not only speak verbally but they can

2290
01:30:09,830 --> 01:30:00,629
he

2291
01:30:11,430 --> 01:30:09,840
woman that came to him and who took him

2292
01:30:13,590 --> 01:30:11,440
on board the craft

2293
01:30:16,070 --> 01:30:13,600
so there is that similarity there the

2294
01:30:18,390 --> 01:30:16,080
fact that he fathered several children

2295
01:30:20,709 --> 01:30:18,400
the fact i asked him well why don't you

2296
01:30:23,510 --> 01:30:20,719
stay there if that's you know

2297
01:30:25,350 --> 01:30:23,520
he says the reason he cooperates is that

2298
01:30:28,149 --> 01:30:25,360
he has been told

2299
01:30:29,910 --> 01:30:28,159
again that his dna was very similar to

2300
01:30:31,910 --> 01:30:29,920
theirs

2301
01:30:33,910 --> 01:30:31,920
let's continue with that

2302
01:30:35,669 --> 01:30:33,920
in our next segment with artie six

2303
01:30:38,180 --> 01:30:35,679
killer clark and gina and chris you're

2304
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in the parry cast

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[Music]

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2409
01:35:23,030 --> 01:35:20,960
with jean and chris we have artie six

2410
01:35:24,390 --> 01:35:23,040
killer clark and she was talking about

2411
01:35:26,550 --> 01:35:24,400
an interesting

2412
01:35:29,110 --> 01:35:26,560
case there in our previous segment i had

2413
01:35:31,510 --> 01:35:29,120
to interrupt you towards the end because

2414
01:35:34,149 --> 01:35:31,520
the network clock is the network clock

2415
01:35:35,910 --> 01:35:34,159
have any more to say before we move on

2416
01:35:37,669 --> 01:35:35,920
no not really uh

2417
01:35:39,830 --> 01:35:37,679
what i was able to stream was you know

2418
01:35:42,709 --> 01:35:39,840
here is an ancient legend that talks of

2419
01:35:45,030 --> 01:35:42,719
a wound being taken to the stars where

2420
01:35:47,030 --> 01:35:45,040
the man father several children decides

2421
01:35:49,830 --> 01:35:47,040
he wants to come back to earth

2422
01:35:51,990 --> 01:35:49,840
returns to earth and then finally goes

2423
01:35:54,070 --> 01:35:52,000
back and lives with his wife and the

2424
01:35:56,550 --> 01:35:54,080
stars and the same thing with

2425
01:35:58,470 --> 01:35:56,560
the contemporary story except that the

2426
01:35:59,990 --> 01:35:58,480
man doesn't live there he just goes

2427
01:36:01,350 --> 01:36:00,000
there on occasion

2428
01:36:03,990 --> 01:36:01,360
um

2429
01:36:05,430 --> 01:36:04,000
you know because he has i asked him you

2430
01:36:07,350 --> 01:36:05,440
know do you have the same kind of

2431
01:36:09,110 --> 01:36:07,360
relationship with your children there

2432
01:36:11,350 --> 01:36:09,120
that you would have on earth and he says

2433
01:36:13,430 --> 01:36:11,360
no not at all you know it's

2434
01:36:17,030 --> 01:36:13,440
when i go there

2435
01:36:19,270 --> 01:36:17,040
he said the society is is quite rigid in

2436
01:36:22,310 --> 01:36:19,280
their rules because they have

2437
01:36:26,070 --> 01:36:22,320
a place where they put all of us

2438
01:36:28,470 --> 01:36:26,080
who are abductees and who have fathered

2439
01:36:30,709 --> 01:36:28,480
or parented uh because he said there

2440
01:36:33,669 --> 01:36:30,719
were a couple women he had seen

2441
01:36:35,830 --> 01:36:33,679
um they put them in this place to sleep

2442
01:36:38,470 --> 01:36:35,840
and then wherever they go there have

2443
01:36:40,870 --> 01:36:38,480
someone accompanying them

2444
01:36:43,430 --> 01:36:40,880
they're not allowed to talk to the other

2445
01:36:45,350 --> 01:36:43,440
abductees so he has no idea who they are

2446
01:36:49,030 --> 01:36:45,360
or where they come from

2447
01:36:51,750 --> 01:36:49,040
but his situation he said is very unique

2448
01:36:53,270 --> 01:36:51,760
he owns several businesses in seattle

2449
01:36:56,229 --> 01:36:53,280
and was able to

2450
01:36:57,910 --> 01:36:56,239
come and go as he pleased so that he had

2451
01:37:00,470 --> 01:36:57,920
people who work for him he was a very

2452
01:37:02,470 --> 01:37:00,480
successful businessman and so when he

2453
01:37:04,149 --> 01:37:02,480
disappeared no one would really think

2454
01:37:05,910 --> 01:37:04,159
anything about it so he said you know

2455
01:37:07,430 --> 01:37:05,920
often he went for

2456
01:37:09,030 --> 01:37:07,440
weeks at a time

2457
01:37:11,189 --> 01:37:09,040
and wow

2458
01:37:13,109 --> 01:37:11,199
one thing i've noticed is there seems to

2459
01:37:14,950 --> 01:37:13,119
be a higher percentage

2460
01:37:15,990 --> 01:37:14,960
of stories and

2461
01:37:18,310 --> 01:37:16,000
accounts

2462
01:37:21,830 --> 01:37:18,320
that involve procreation

2463
01:37:23,990 --> 01:37:21,840
sexual relations um and and

2464
01:37:27,270 --> 01:37:24,000
more intimate type relationships with

2465
01:37:29,910 --> 01:37:27,280
star beans as opposed to your

2466
01:37:30,709 --> 01:37:29,920
more conventional kind of anglo versions

2467
01:37:32,709 --> 01:37:30,719
which

2468
01:37:35,430 --> 01:37:32,719
seem to be a little bit more

2469
01:37:38,390 --> 01:37:35,440
um at arm's length a little bit more uh

2470
01:37:39,270 --> 01:37:38,400
separation uh there seems to be more of

2471
01:37:41,750 --> 01:37:39,280
like a

2472
01:37:44,709 --> 01:37:41,760
more of a doctor patient or scientist

2473
01:37:47,189 --> 01:37:44,719
and and uh you know study

2474
01:37:49,510 --> 01:37:47,199
study group um as opposed to more

2475
01:37:51,189 --> 01:37:49,520
intimate type of um apparent

2476
01:37:52,229 --> 01:37:51,199
relationships have you noticed this as

2477
01:37:55,990 --> 01:37:52,239
well

2478
01:37:57,669 --> 01:37:56,000
book and i think i only had a couple of

2479
01:38:00,070 --> 01:37:57,679
stories i think

2480
01:38:02,470 --> 01:38:00,080
in my next book i think there was one

2481
01:38:03,590 --> 01:38:02,480
story and then this this book

2482
01:38:05,030 --> 01:38:03,600
um

2483
01:38:07,510 --> 01:38:05,040
in my new book

2484
01:38:09,430 --> 01:38:07,520
um there are again only a couple of

2485
01:38:10,790 --> 01:38:09,440
stories i think that it's probably

2486
01:38:13,030 --> 01:38:10,800
similar to

2487
01:38:13,990 --> 01:38:13,040
to uh mainstream

2488
01:38:20,070 --> 01:38:14,000
uh

2489
01:38:24,229 --> 01:38:23,270
what i was fascinated by and i've had

2490
01:38:35,830 --> 01:38:24,239
i

2491
01:38:37,430 --> 01:38:35,840
that's not common

2492
01:38:39,189 --> 01:38:37,440
in um

2493
01:38:42,070 --> 01:38:39,199
you know there are a lot of stories

2494
01:38:44,470 --> 01:38:42,080
about women being abducted and

2495
01:38:47,750 --> 01:38:44,480
the implantation of

2496
01:38:50,390 --> 01:38:47,760
of of a sperm or some sort of thing that

2497
01:38:52,709 --> 01:38:50,400
creates a child and then the child is

2498
01:38:54,629 --> 01:38:52,719
is taken or women being taken on board

2499
01:38:56,390 --> 01:38:54,639
crafts where they're told

2500
01:38:57,669 --> 01:38:56,400
this is your baby

2501
01:39:01,189 --> 01:38:57,679
but

2502
01:39:06,390 --> 01:39:02,870
the population

2503
01:39:08,149 --> 01:39:06,400
but there are very few stories of men

2504
01:39:10,870 --> 01:39:08,159
who are taken

2505
01:39:13,109 --> 01:39:10,880
and are told they are fathers

2506
01:39:13,990 --> 01:39:13,119
and that's what i find most interesting

2507
01:39:18,790 --> 01:39:14,000
is

2508
01:39:19,830 --> 01:39:18,800
me and told me now i don't have a whole

2509
01:39:21,990 --> 01:39:19,840
lot

2510
01:39:23,669 --> 01:39:22,000
but i do have some

2511
01:39:26,310 --> 01:39:23,679
well i wonder here just listening to

2512
01:39:28,790 --> 01:39:26,320
what you said about so-called abductees

2513
01:39:29,830 --> 01:39:28,800
being taken among the star people they

2514
01:39:31,590 --> 01:39:29,840
sound like

2515
01:39:33,109 --> 01:39:31,600
they're slaves or they're captured and

2516
01:39:34,070 --> 01:39:33,119
they're not allowed to talk to other

2517
01:39:36,149 --> 01:39:34,080
people

2518
01:39:37,510 --> 01:39:36,159
they're not allowed to have the freedom

2519
01:39:40,550 --> 01:39:37,520
and that to me

2520
01:39:43,189 --> 01:39:40,560
is telling me they're not very nice well

2521
01:39:45,189 --> 01:39:43,199
you know and i asked him that i said oh

2522
01:39:49,350 --> 01:39:45,199
why don't you just live there

2523
01:39:51,270 --> 01:39:49,360
and he says because i value democracy

2524
01:39:53,910 --> 01:39:51,280
i value my freedom

2525
01:39:56,229 --> 01:39:53,920
and when you live there that you have no

2526
01:39:58,070 --> 01:39:56,239
freedom really he said there are two

2527
01:40:00,070 --> 01:39:58,080
classes of people there's the upper

2528
01:40:02,070 --> 01:40:00,080
class and the lower class

2529
01:40:03,990 --> 01:40:02,080
but because the upper class takes care

2530
01:40:06,790 --> 01:40:04,000
of every deed of the lower class they

2531
01:40:09,109 --> 01:40:06,800
don't rebel

2532
01:40:10,790 --> 01:40:09,119
and and i i found that kind of

2533
01:40:13,590 --> 01:40:10,800
interesting because it looks like we're

2534
01:40:16,870 --> 01:40:13,600
moving to that kind of a society where

2535
01:40:18,950 --> 01:40:16,880
the upper class uh you know provides

2536
01:40:21,350 --> 01:40:18,960
that kind of uh

2537
01:40:25,109 --> 01:40:21,360
service you know to the less fortunate

2538
01:40:26,629 --> 01:40:25,119
and and uh moving away from you know

2539
01:40:28,470 --> 01:40:26,639
when you got 60 percent of the

2540
01:40:30,390 --> 01:40:28,480
population not working but are being

2541
01:40:33,750 --> 01:40:30,400
taken care of and

2542
01:40:36,790 --> 01:40:33,760
it it makes you think about a society

2543
01:40:38,629 --> 01:40:36,800
like that that he he was talking about

2544
01:40:39,590 --> 01:40:38,639
um

2545
01:40:43,189 --> 01:40:39,600
so

2546
01:40:45,750 --> 01:40:43,199
um i i don't know it it

2547
01:40:47,990 --> 01:40:45,760
he he preferred his freedom to living in

2548
01:40:49,510 --> 01:40:48,000
an environment like that and i asked him

2549
01:40:51,270 --> 01:40:49,520
well do you think your children would

2550
01:40:52,390 --> 01:40:51,280
ever come here and he said my children

2551
01:40:54,870 --> 01:40:52,400
would never

2552
01:40:57,910 --> 01:40:56,790
want to leave here because they would

2553
01:41:00,550 --> 01:40:57,920
not have

2554
01:41:03,750 --> 01:41:00,560
the same station as they have there they

2555
01:41:06,310 --> 01:41:03,760
would not have the same position

2556
01:41:08,390 --> 01:41:06,320
sound like a very nice place

2557
01:41:10,550 --> 01:41:08,400
no it doesn't to me either but you're

2558
01:41:12,550 --> 01:41:10,560
relating this of course to

2559
01:41:14,149 --> 01:41:12,560
reports of ufo abductions around the

2560
01:41:15,109 --> 01:41:14,159
world where we have similar things

2561
01:41:16,790 --> 01:41:15,119
happening

2562
01:41:19,590 --> 01:41:16,800
interacting with

2563
01:41:22,149 --> 01:41:19,600
other beings of different descriptions

2564
01:41:24,950 --> 01:41:22,159
possible genetic manipulation

2565
01:41:27,350 --> 01:41:24,960
or the creation of hybrids or as one

2566
01:41:28,950 --> 01:41:27,360
particular researcher calls them hubrids

2567
01:41:30,790 --> 01:41:28,960
human hybrids

2568
01:41:33,030 --> 01:41:30,800
so are we just hearing different

2569
01:41:35,350 --> 01:41:33,040
versions of the same stories

2570
01:41:36,629 --> 01:41:35,360
i'm not sure what what what you're

2571
01:41:39,590 --> 01:41:36,639
talking about

2572
01:41:41,990 --> 01:41:39,600
the general sense of ufo abductions

2573
01:41:44,470 --> 01:41:42,000
and the interactions with

2574
01:41:46,950 --> 01:41:44,480
supposed extraterrestrials

2575
01:41:48,390 --> 01:41:46,960
some aspects of that are sounding the

2576
01:41:49,830 --> 01:41:48,400
same as some of the reports that you

2577
01:41:51,109 --> 01:41:49,840
give us

2578
01:41:53,109 --> 01:41:51,119
well i

2579
01:41:55,109 --> 01:41:53,119
i i don't know if they're similar i

2580
01:41:57,430 --> 01:41:55,119
don't read a lot of like those accounts

2581
01:41:59,350 --> 01:41:57,440
or listen to tv that much

2582
01:42:01,750 --> 01:41:59,360
but um

2583
01:42:03,830 --> 01:42:01,760
i think if that's the truth

2584
01:42:06,550 --> 01:42:03,840
if that is the case then i think that

2585
01:42:09,350 --> 01:42:06,560
would lend credibility to these stories

2586
01:42:11,910 --> 01:42:09,360
if other people are experiencing similar

2587
01:42:13,350 --> 01:42:11,920
things then then it's happening to more

2588
01:42:15,430 --> 01:42:13,360
than one person

2589
01:42:18,229 --> 01:42:15,440
and it's not just one person telling the

2590
01:42:22,629 --> 01:42:20,149
yeah and uh there there is that both

2591
01:42:26,070 --> 01:42:22,639
gene and i are fairly well read uh in

2592
01:42:29,109 --> 01:42:26,080
terms of you're more

2593
01:42:31,830 --> 01:42:29,119
well known in contemporary accounts uh

2594
01:42:35,109 --> 01:42:31,840
uh you mentioned uh males being taken

2595
01:42:38,070 --> 01:42:35,119
for uh purposes of procreation and you

2596
01:42:40,229 --> 01:42:38,080
know some sort of sexual uh angle uh of

2597
01:42:43,750 --> 01:42:40,239
course the very v famous case from south

2598
01:42:46,390 --> 01:42:43,760
america the villa boasts right yeah that

2599
01:42:47,830 --> 01:42:46,400
that would be one of the exceptional uh

2600
01:42:50,229 --> 01:42:47,840
exceptions to

2601
01:42:53,109 --> 01:42:50,239
to the um you know the

2602
01:42:55,109 --> 01:42:53,119
maybe the ratio of men to women that

2603
01:42:57,270 --> 01:42:55,119
report these types of cases and that is

2604
01:42:59,189 --> 01:42:57,280
a bit standalone some of the details of

2605
01:43:01,510 --> 01:42:59,199
that account are

2606
01:43:04,629 --> 01:43:01,520
almost humorous uh you know it's kind of

2607
01:43:06,950 --> 01:43:04,639
a strange sort of sick sort of way but

2608
01:43:09,189 --> 01:43:06,960
uh i i have another question here this

2609
01:43:11,510 --> 01:43:09,199
one comes from a long time poster named

2610
01:43:13,669 --> 01:43:11,520
wade who's been posting that uh

2611
01:43:15,990 --> 01:43:13,679
forum.theparacast.com

2612
01:43:18,550 --> 01:43:16,000
since 2011

2613
01:43:19,830 --> 01:43:18,560
and uh he's asking me to put this uh as

2614
01:43:22,470 --> 01:43:19,840
best i can

2615
01:43:24,709 --> 01:43:22,480
but i'll what i'll do is i'll pre-sage

2616
01:43:26,950 --> 01:43:24,719
the question with a with an observation

2617
01:43:28,390 --> 01:43:26,960
made by an abduction researcher named

2618
01:43:29,350 --> 01:43:28,400
daryl sims

2619
01:43:31,189 --> 01:43:29,360
who

2620
01:43:33,750 --> 01:43:31,199
has interviewed

2621
01:43:35,910 --> 01:43:33,760
hundreds and hundreds of abductees

2622
01:43:38,629 --> 01:43:35,920
over the past 30 plus years

2623
01:43:41,910 --> 01:43:38,639
and what he determined was that

2624
01:43:45,669 --> 01:43:41,920
if you're have if you have cherokee

2625
01:43:48,149 --> 01:43:45,679
and celtic uh uh lineage

2626
01:43:50,390 --> 01:43:48,159
that you are more likely than any other

2627
01:43:53,189 --> 01:43:50,400
uh genetic type

2628
01:43:55,270 --> 01:43:53,199
uh to be uh

2629
01:43:57,910 --> 01:43:55,280
abducted let's say uh for lack of a

2630
01:43:59,669 --> 01:43:57,920
better term or visited or taken away he

2631
01:44:01,590 --> 01:43:59,679
said that there's a higher percentage of

2632
01:44:02,709 --> 01:44:01,600
people with cherokee a combination of

2633
01:44:06,070 --> 01:44:02,719
cherokee

2634
01:44:07,830 --> 01:44:06,080
and irish or celtic uh blood

2635
01:44:09,830 --> 01:44:07,840
they

2636
01:44:12,629 --> 01:44:09,840
that tends to be a larger demographic

2637
01:44:15,669 --> 01:44:12,639
type in in the numbers and wade is

2638
01:44:17,510 --> 01:44:15,679
wondering uh if you've looked into

2639
01:44:19,910 --> 01:44:17,520
a possible connection with people of

2640
01:44:21,750 --> 01:44:19,920
celtic origins and why they along with

2641
01:44:24,470 --> 01:44:21,760
native americans or as i mentioned

2642
01:44:27,510 --> 01:44:24,480
cherokees in that uh sense may be

2643
01:44:30,390 --> 01:44:27,520
singled out or targeted um do we have

2644
01:44:32,229 --> 01:44:30,400
any indication through your work that um

2645
01:44:34,390 --> 01:44:32,239
that there could be some sort of

2646
01:44:36,070 --> 01:44:34,400
correlation there

2647
01:44:38,149 --> 01:44:36,080
well you know um

2648
01:44:40,470 --> 01:44:38,159
i haven't heard of that research before

2649
01:44:41,430 --> 01:44:40,480
that's i find it very interesting

2650
01:44:45,910 --> 01:44:41,440
um

2651
01:44:49,270 --> 01:44:47,109
among

2652
01:44:52,550 --> 01:44:49,280
the cherokees who have participated in

2653
01:44:54,950 --> 01:44:53,990
and

2654
01:44:57,270 --> 01:44:54,960
more

2655
01:45:00,550 --> 01:44:57,280
cherokees telling me stories than i have

2656
01:45:03,109 --> 01:45:00,560
other other tribal groups so i

2657
01:45:04,070 --> 01:45:03,119
didn't know that was that was the case

2658
01:45:09,870 --> 01:45:04,080
and

2659
01:45:12,229 --> 01:45:09,880
send me that information uh at artie

2660
01:45:14,629 --> 01:45:12,239
sixkiller.com i sure would love to hear

2661
01:45:16,709 --> 01:45:14,639
from him uh because that's something

2662
01:45:17,910 --> 01:45:16,719
that i would like to

2663
01:45:20,709 --> 01:45:17,920
perhaps

2664
01:45:22,470 --> 01:45:20,719
pursue and uh look into

2665
01:45:23,750 --> 01:45:22,480
we've got more to come with artie six

2666
01:45:26,229 --> 01:45:23,760
killer clark

2667
01:45:28,180 --> 01:45:26,239
along with jean and chris you're in the

2668
01:45:33,810 --> 01:45:28,190
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2669
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2670
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2671
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2673
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2674
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2675
01:45:59,270 --> 01:45:56,880
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2676
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2677
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2678
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2679
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2680
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2681
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2682
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2683
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2690
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2696
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2697
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2698
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2699
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2700
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2702
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2721
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2722
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2723
01:48:11,590 --> 01:48:04,480
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2724
01:48:17,590 --> 01:48:14,709
artie six killer clark gene and chris

2725
01:48:19,990 --> 01:48:17,600
encounters with star people what i'll do

2726
01:48:22,550 --> 01:48:20,000
arty is i'll i'll um i'll shoot you uh

2727
01:48:25,430 --> 01:48:22,560
daryl's contact information i think his

2728
01:48:27,030 --> 01:48:25,440
website is alienhunter.com

2729
01:48:29,270 --> 01:48:27,040
um

2730
01:48:31,510 --> 01:48:29,280
he did release i think an article that

2731
01:48:34,070 --> 01:48:31,520
talks about you know the demographic

2732
01:48:35,030 --> 01:48:34,080
information that uh that kind of leapt

2733
01:48:39,830 --> 01:48:35,040
out of the

2734
01:48:41,270 --> 01:48:39,840
been collecting and um when he i

2735
01:48:43,590 --> 01:48:41,280
happened to be at a conference when he

2736
01:48:46,470 --> 01:48:43,600
debuted this particular fact and i was

2737
01:48:48,790 --> 01:48:46,480
very very intrigued by that

2738
01:48:51,430 --> 01:48:48,800
i i'm of course i'm not quite sure what

2739
01:48:53,830 --> 01:48:51,440
to make of it but um it's it would be

2740
01:48:55,830 --> 01:48:53,840
interesting if that bears out i haven't

2741
01:48:58,629 --> 01:48:55,840
heard this before but i sure would be

2742
01:49:01,350 --> 01:48:58,639
interested in following up on it yeah

2743
01:49:03,430 --> 01:49:01,360
there's another uh group uh with dr

2744
01:49:06,310 --> 01:49:03,440
tyler uh kochjan

2745
01:49:08,870 --> 01:49:06,320
uh who are also doing very extensive

2746
01:49:11,669 --> 01:49:08,880
surveys with abductees and i think one

2747
01:49:13,430 --> 01:49:11,679
of the preliminary findings that they

2748
01:49:14,470 --> 01:49:13,440
determined was

2749
01:49:15,669 --> 01:49:14,480
the same

2750
01:49:18,629 --> 01:49:15,679
that if you

2751
01:49:19,590 --> 01:49:18,639
have a mixture of cherokee and celtic

2752
01:49:20,870 --> 01:49:19,600
blood

2753
01:49:22,870 --> 01:49:20,880
uh or

2754
01:49:24,390 --> 01:49:22,880
genetic background that there seems to

2755
01:49:26,790 --> 01:49:24,400
be a higher

2756
01:49:28,229 --> 01:49:26,800
ratio of of people

2757
01:49:29,910 --> 01:49:28,239
that have been abducted with that

2758
01:49:32,229 --> 01:49:29,920
combination and that would be

2759
01:49:34,470 --> 01:49:32,239
interesting too right you know

2760
01:49:36,870 --> 01:49:34,480
it's very interesting i would like to

2761
01:49:39,910 --> 01:49:36,880
follow up on that and and also you know

2762
01:49:43,030 --> 01:49:39,920
it's it would be important to me to know

2763
01:49:44,550 --> 01:49:43,040
you know obviously uh these people are

2764
01:49:46,229 --> 01:49:44,560
not full bloods

2765
01:49:48,870 --> 01:49:46,239
because if they're a combination you

2766
01:49:51,270 --> 01:49:48,880
know what i know they're not a a whole

2767
01:49:53,669 --> 01:49:51,280
lot of cherokees who are you know full

2768
01:49:55,350 --> 01:49:53,679
blood today i don't know it's better

2769
01:49:57,750 --> 01:49:55,360
but not many

2770
01:50:00,550 --> 01:49:57,760
it would be interesting it's interesting

2771
01:50:02,870 --> 01:50:00,560
research i'd if you can send me any

2772
01:50:04,550 --> 01:50:02,880
information that can let me follow up on

2773
01:50:06,550 --> 01:50:04,560
that i sure would appreciate it okay

2774
01:50:09,109 --> 01:50:06,560
yeah not a problem and and we'll do that

2775
01:50:10,550 --> 01:50:09,119
after after we're done taping here i'm

2776
01:50:12,390 --> 01:50:10,560
wondering about you know i've always

2777
01:50:14,709 --> 01:50:12,400
been interested in

2778
01:50:17,030 --> 01:50:14,719
other indigenous uh peoples around the

2779
01:50:17,990 --> 01:50:17,040
world and their traditions of star

2780
01:50:20,310 --> 01:50:18,000
people

2781
01:50:22,149 --> 01:50:20,320
i'm wondering uh in in in the work that

2782
01:50:25,669 --> 01:50:22,159
you've done and i know that you have

2783
01:50:28,470 --> 01:50:25,679
visited uh the maya and other uh tribal

2784
01:50:31,669 --> 01:50:28,480
groups in uh in the americas

2785
01:50:33,750 --> 01:50:31,679
what other correlations uh do we see

2786
01:50:35,669 --> 01:50:33,760
uh cross culturally

2787
01:50:38,629 --> 01:50:35,679
between these stories and legends and

2788
01:50:41,430 --> 01:50:38,639
and what other uh differences what

2789
01:50:43,910 --> 01:50:41,440
what sort of anomalies stick out

2790
01:50:46,229 --> 01:50:43,920
let's say that might differentiate uh

2791
01:50:48,870 --> 01:50:46,239
between one regional uh

2792
01:50:51,669 --> 01:50:48,880
group uh versus uh you know let's say

2793
01:50:54,070 --> 01:50:51,679
north versus south american traditions

2794
01:50:54,950 --> 01:50:54,080
well actually they're very similar in in

2795
01:50:57,430 --> 01:50:54,960
that

2796
01:51:01,750 --> 01:50:57,440
there are some um

2797
01:51:04,149 --> 01:51:01,760
accounts in in south america of specific

2798
01:51:07,030 --> 01:51:04,159
individuals that came

2799
01:51:08,390 --> 01:51:07,040
and um you know had a had a tremendous

2800
01:51:12,070 --> 01:51:08,400
impact upon

2801
01:51:13,430 --> 01:51:12,080
um on their lives and and uh

2802
01:51:16,390 --> 01:51:13,440
you know uh

2803
01:51:18,950 --> 01:51:16,400
what they became but um

2804
01:51:21,030 --> 01:51:18,960
i don't know it's it i'm trying to think

2805
01:51:22,790 --> 01:51:21,040
of something that

2806
01:51:25,750 --> 01:51:22,800
that perhaps i could give you to answer

2807
01:51:27,669 --> 01:51:25,760
that question but um

2808
01:51:29,830 --> 01:51:27,679
nothing really jumps out at you

2809
01:51:32,390 --> 01:51:29,840
right now nothing yeah

2810
01:51:33,830 --> 01:51:32,400
okay here here's another uh

2811
01:51:35,590 --> 01:51:33,840
line of

2812
01:51:36,310 --> 01:51:35,600
research that i've always been intrigued

2813
01:51:39,109 --> 01:51:36,320
with

2814
01:51:40,870 --> 01:51:39,119
of course dr jacques villa wrote

2815
01:51:44,390 --> 01:51:40,880
probably his seminal work

2816
01:51:46,229 --> 01:51:44,400
from 1969 as a passport to magonia

2817
01:51:49,270 --> 01:51:46,239
and this is where he

2818
01:51:51,910 --> 01:51:49,280
he looks at the tradition of little

2819
01:51:54,790 --> 01:51:51,920
people and of elemental uh

2820
01:51:56,950 --> 01:51:54,800
beings and their possible uh

2821
01:51:59,350 --> 01:51:56,960
relationship to what we now refer to as

2822
01:52:01,510 --> 01:51:59,360
as uh as aliens or

2823
01:52:04,310 --> 01:52:01,520
uh the native americans would refer to

2824
01:52:06,790 --> 01:52:04,320
as star people do we see any

2825
01:52:09,510 --> 01:52:06,800
correlations between

2826
01:52:11,669 --> 01:52:09,520
the the real rich tradition of little

2827
01:52:12,950 --> 01:52:11,679
people lore that we find in native

2828
01:52:15,830 --> 01:52:12,960
american

2829
01:52:17,830 --> 01:52:15,840
culture cultural knowledge and uh do we

2830
01:52:19,910 --> 01:52:17,840
see any correlations uh

2831
01:52:22,390 --> 01:52:19,920
that you might be able to look at that

2832
01:52:24,629 --> 01:52:22,400
are also similar to uh star being

2833
01:52:29,350 --> 01:52:24,639
stories

2834
01:52:33,270 --> 01:52:31,430
several tribes american indian tribes

2835
01:52:35,109 --> 01:52:33,280
have stories of little people

2836
01:52:37,430 --> 01:52:35,119
and of course you know the maya has

2837
01:52:41,589 --> 01:52:37,440
stories of little people in fact if you

2838
01:52:43,430 --> 01:52:41,599
if you go to um the ancient city

2839
01:52:46,229 --> 01:52:43,440
of uxmal

2840
01:52:47,830 --> 01:52:46,239
there is a legend there that speaks of

2841
01:52:49,910 --> 01:52:47,840
of uh

2842
01:52:52,070 --> 01:52:49,920
the the great pyramid there the great

2843
01:52:55,589 --> 01:52:52,080
team yeah the temple of the magician

2844
01:52:56,629 --> 01:52:55,599
right it was built by a small you know

2845
01:53:00,950 --> 01:52:56,639
man

2846
01:53:03,990 --> 01:53:02,950
the way he was able to do that is

2847
01:53:05,589 --> 01:53:04,000
because

2848
01:53:08,470 --> 01:53:05,599
um

2849
01:53:10,790 --> 01:53:08,480
flying ships brought in you know helped

2850
01:53:13,109 --> 01:53:10,800
him do that there were flying ships that

2851
01:53:13,990 --> 01:53:13,119
came in and helped him

2852
01:53:19,430 --> 01:53:14,000
um

2853
01:53:21,830 --> 01:53:19,440
you know

2854
01:53:25,109 --> 01:53:21,840
the macuzzi indians of the amazon in

2855
01:53:27,750 --> 01:53:25,119
northern brazil you know they're

2856
01:53:29,910 --> 01:53:27,760
they talk about the hollow earth

2857
01:53:31,830 --> 01:53:29,920
and they say that they're

2858
01:53:33,750 --> 01:53:31,840
they they were

2859
01:53:36,070 --> 01:53:33,760
their oral traditions tell of a time

2860
01:53:38,229 --> 01:53:36,080
when they were entrusted with the secret

2861
01:53:40,709 --> 01:53:38,239
knowledge of the underground realm of

2862
01:53:43,350 --> 01:53:40,719
the inner earth and that they were

2863
01:53:45,589 --> 01:53:43,360
allowed to visit this hidden land and

2864
01:53:48,149 --> 01:53:45,599
interact with the giants who

2865
01:53:51,109 --> 01:53:48,159
uh who resided there and there are many

2866
01:53:53,430 --> 01:53:51,119
stories in both south and north america

2867
01:53:54,390 --> 01:53:53,440
about giants you know that lived upon

2868
01:53:55,990 --> 01:53:54,400
the land

2869
01:53:58,070 --> 01:53:56,000
when uh

2870
01:54:00,950 --> 01:53:58,080
travel groups you know

2871
01:54:03,350 --> 01:54:00,960
some lived peacefully others did not you

2872
01:54:05,430 --> 01:54:03,360
know the cherokee have a story of the of

2873
01:54:07,750 --> 01:54:05,440
the blue people who lived underground

2874
01:54:09,990 --> 01:54:07,760
who who came out and

2875
01:54:11,830 --> 01:54:10,000
they grew crops but they lived

2876
01:54:13,589 --> 01:54:11,840
underground and then they would come out

2877
01:54:16,310 --> 01:54:13,599
and they would they would harvest their

2878
01:54:19,270 --> 01:54:16,320
crops at night because they their their

2879
01:54:20,830 --> 01:54:19,280
eyes were such that they could not live

2880
01:54:23,990 --> 01:54:20,840
in the sun

2881
01:54:26,390 --> 01:54:24,000
um the the mccoozies on the other hand

2882
01:54:29,109 --> 01:54:26,400
were given the task to look after

2883
01:54:31,750 --> 01:54:29,119
uh uh the hollower so nobody could enter

2884
01:54:33,669 --> 01:54:31,760
this mysterious cavern you know

2885
01:54:35,109 --> 01:54:33,679
and they talked about in their legends

2886
01:54:37,109 --> 01:54:35,119
how you would travel

2887
01:54:40,229 --> 01:54:37,119
for three days and you would descend

2888
01:54:43,270 --> 01:54:40,239
these giant stairways

2889
01:54:45,189 --> 01:54:43,280
and then on the third day

2890
01:54:47,350 --> 01:54:45,199
they wouldn't need torches or anything

2891
01:54:49,510 --> 01:54:47,360
because when they would arrive on the

2892
01:54:51,990 --> 01:54:49,520
third day was illuminated

2893
01:54:54,550 --> 01:54:52,000
uh by lights that were already in the

2894
01:54:57,430 --> 01:54:54,560
cave and there were giant lanterns the

2895
01:54:59,830 --> 01:54:57,440
size of watermelons that that

2896
01:55:01,910 --> 01:54:59,840
that were there um

2897
01:55:04,310 --> 01:55:01,920
it was then they talked about if you

2898
01:55:06,790 --> 01:55:04,320
travel four or five more days that you

2899
01:55:09,669 --> 01:55:06,800
would end up in an area where

2900
01:55:10,790 --> 01:55:09,679
you were weightless

2901
01:55:13,750 --> 01:55:10,800
wow

2902
01:55:16,070 --> 01:55:13,760
so there were all kinds of stories that

2903
01:55:18,470 --> 01:55:16,080
i came across you know in that part of

2904
01:55:21,109 --> 01:55:18,480
the world

2905
01:55:23,669 --> 01:55:21,119
the last of the macuzzi say that

2906
01:55:27,030 --> 01:55:23,679
until the year 1907 they would enter the

2907
01:55:29,750 --> 01:55:27,040
caverns and would walk for 13 or 15 days

2908
01:55:32,390 --> 01:55:29,760
in order to arrive at this cavern world

2909
01:55:34,390 --> 01:55:32,400
and and they're below the surface of the

2910
01:55:36,390 --> 01:55:34,400
earth or inside the surface of the earth

2911
01:55:38,629 --> 01:55:36,400
lived these giants

2912
01:55:41,109 --> 01:55:38,639
and uh that they were

2913
01:55:43,589 --> 01:55:41,119
very tall they were good people

2914
01:55:45,830 --> 01:55:43,599
and they respected the

2915
01:55:47,510 --> 01:55:45,840
koozies but according to them no one has

2916
01:55:48,629 --> 01:55:47,520
been there since the early nineteen

2917
01:55:50,390 --> 01:55:48,639
hundreds

2918
01:55:52,629 --> 01:55:50,400
and the vacuzzis are actually the

2919
01:55:54,709 --> 01:55:52,639
guardians of the underworld

2920
01:55:55,990 --> 01:55:54,719
they protect the entrance to the

2921
01:55:58,470 --> 01:55:56,000
underworld

2922
01:56:01,430 --> 01:55:58,480
and and this is northern brazil you said

2923
01:56:04,950 --> 01:56:01,440
yes yes this is in brazil well

2924
01:56:06,709 --> 01:56:04,960
interesting i i wrote a book uh which

2925
01:56:09,189 --> 01:56:06,719
looked at the um

2926
01:56:11,750 --> 01:56:09,199
you know the cultural archetype of the

2927
01:56:13,830 --> 01:56:11,760
trickster and how it manifests

2928
01:56:15,589 --> 01:56:13,840
uh in various indigenous cultures around

2929
01:56:16,470 --> 01:56:15,599
the world and and western cultures as

2930
01:56:18,709 --> 01:56:16,480
well

2931
01:56:21,510 --> 01:56:18,719
and uh when i started doing a chapter on

2932
01:56:23,990 --> 01:56:21,520
elementals i i thought you know i'd be

2933
01:56:25,830 --> 01:56:24,000
uh talking mostly about uh the celtic

2934
01:56:27,510 --> 01:56:25,840
countries and leprechauns and fairies

2935
01:56:28,709 --> 01:56:27,520
and brownies but

2936
01:56:32,470 --> 01:56:28,719
i'm not

2937
01:56:35,109 --> 01:56:32,480
well i i was amazed and had no idea that

2938
01:56:36,870 --> 01:56:35,119
uh most if not all right they have the

2939
01:56:37,910 --> 01:56:36,880
menu

2940
01:56:42,709 --> 01:56:37,920
you know

2941
01:56:45,270 --> 01:56:42,719
regional group of native americans have

2942
01:56:49,430 --> 01:56:45,280
traditions of underground dwelling

2943
01:56:52,229 --> 01:56:49,440
uh beans or small small elementals who

2944
01:56:54,229 --> 01:56:52,239
in kind of a general version

2945
01:56:56,229 --> 01:56:54,239
they're there when the natives

2946
01:56:58,470 --> 01:56:56,239
maybe migrate to a particular part of

2947
01:57:01,669 --> 01:56:58,480
the country and they have to drive them

2948
01:57:04,310 --> 01:57:01,679
out but i was amazed of tribe after

2949
01:57:07,510 --> 01:57:04,320
tribe after tribe have accounts

2950
01:57:09,910 --> 01:57:07,520
of small diminutive beings giants in

2951
01:57:11,030 --> 01:57:09,920
some cases who are said to live

2952
01:57:13,189 --> 01:57:11,040
underground

2953
01:57:15,589 --> 01:57:13,199
they invariably end up

2954
01:57:17,430 --> 01:57:15,599
coming to you know hostile sort of

2955
01:57:19,830 --> 01:57:17,440
relations with these beans and end up

2956
01:57:21,350 --> 01:57:19,840
driving them out uh so that they can

2957
01:57:22,950 --> 01:57:21,360
settle their land it's not only the

2958
01:57:25,030 --> 01:57:22,960
cherokee it's the

2959
01:57:27,830 --> 01:57:25,040
indians of the northwest all up and down

2960
01:57:30,790 --> 01:57:27,840
the rocky mountains

2961
01:57:33,189 --> 01:57:30,800
over you know in in nevada you know they

2962
01:57:35,430 --> 01:57:33,199
tell the story of the red-haired uh

2963
01:57:37,350 --> 01:57:35,440
cannibalistic giants you find the same

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so

3065
02:02:17,189 --> 02:02:14,320
arnie was picking up on the tale of what

3066
02:02:20,310 --> 02:02:17,199
giant cannibals i would tell the story

3067
02:02:22,790 --> 02:02:20,320
of of the it's like a legendary tribe of

3068
02:02:25,030 --> 02:02:22,800
red-haired cannibalistic giants that

3069
02:02:27,830 --> 02:02:25,040
lived in the area where they were

3070
02:02:30,070 --> 02:02:27,840
and how in what is today called the

3071
02:02:33,109 --> 02:02:30,080
lovelock cave of nevada

3072
02:02:35,669 --> 02:02:33,119
and they were forced

3073
02:02:37,830 --> 02:02:35,679
to kill them the there are so many

3074
02:02:40,390 --> 02:02:37,840
stories out there you even find stories

3075
02:02:42,950 --> 02:02:40,400
of red-haired giants that lived on this

3076
02:02:45,030 --> 02:02:42,960
land down in georgia so

3077
02:02:47,589 --> 02:02:45,040
there are stories of cannibalistic

3078
02:02:52,390 --> 02:02:47,599
giants who lived in the area of the

3079
02:02:55,669 --> 02:02:52,400
uh of the um rio grande uh and where uh

3080
02:02:57,589 --> 02:02:55,679
the the tribes coming across from mexico

3081
02:02:59,189 --> 02:02:57,599
who came into the southeastern part of

3082
02:03:01,430 --> 02:02:59,199
the united states

3083
02:03:03,750 --> 02:03:01,440
tr had to make sure that they sneaked

3084
02:03:04,709 --> 02:03:03,760
around the the cannibalistic tribes

3085
02:03:10,470 --> 02:03:04,719
there

3086
02:03:13,189 --> 02:03:10,480
of of giants that lived on the and a lot

3087
02:03:15,589 --> 02:03:13,199
of the stories of defeating a giant that

3088
02:03:18,149 --> 02:03:15,599
just terrorized the people

3089
02:03:19,830 --> 02:03:18,159
yeah and down in patagonia i think early

3090
02:03:21,589 --> 02:03:19,840
uh european

3091
02:03:25,030 --> 02:03:21,599
explorers uh

3092
02:03:27,189 --> 02:03:25,040
were you know rounding the uh the cape

3093
02:03:30,390 --> 02:03:27,199
uh the straits of magellan down there

3094
02:03:33,030 --> 02:03:30,400
there's one actually several accounts of

3095
02:03:35,030 --> 02:03:33,040
of uh crew members going

3096
02:03:36,709 --> 02:03:35,040
from their ship aboard

3097
02:03:38,390 --> 02:03:36,719
going to the land and

3098
02:03:40,149 --> 02:03:38,400
and looking for supplies and

3099
02:03:42,149 --> 02:03:40,159
encountering uh

3100
02:03:43,510 --> 02:03:42,159
a huge uh

3101
02:03:45,030 --> 02:03:43,520
you know

3102
02:03:47,189 --> 02:03:45,040
giants for lack of a better uh

3103
02:03:49,910 --> 02:03:47,199
description you mentioned the lovelock

3104
02:03:52,070 --> 02:03:49,920
caves in the in nevada where weren't

3105
02:03:55,270 --> 02:03:52,080
there uh uh mummies that were discovered

3106
02:03:56,790 --> 02:03:55,280
there i think in the 20s

3107
02:03:58,310 --> 02:03:56,800
absolutely

3108
02:04:00,229 --> 02:03:58,320
well you know you

3109
02:04:02,950 --> 02:04:00,239
they have they've discovered also

3110
02:04:04,950 --> 02:04:02,960
petroglyphs down in the supply canyon in

3111
02:04:06,950 --> 02:04:04,960
arizona of

3112
02:04:10,950 --> 02:04:06,960
these huge

3113
02:04:13,109 --> 02:04:10,960
men attacking attacking a smaller man

3114
02:04:14,870 --> 02:04:13,119
um you know

3115
02:04:16,709 --> 02:04:14,880
in in

3116
02:04:18,950 --> 02:04:16,719
georgia you know as i was saying they

3117
02:04:20,790 --> 02:04:18,960
found a walled off city off the coast of

3118
02:04:24,550 --> 02:04:20,800
georgia uh near

3119
02:04:26,470 --> 02:04:24,560
um what is it this a pillow island

3120
02:04:28,629 --> 02:04:26,480
the city is actually thought to be older

3121
02:04:31,270 --> 02:04:28,639
than the egyptian pyramids

3122
02:04:33,030 --> 02:04:31,280
um and ancient indian legends actually

3123
02:04:36,830 --> 02:04:33,040
referred to it as the walled city where

3124
02:04:38,870 --> 02:04:36,840
the giants with hair like red flames

3125
02:04:40,950 --> 02:04:38,880
dwelled yeah um

3126
02:04:43,750 --> 02:04:40,960
uh and uh

3127
02:04:47,109 --> 02:04:43,760
chief rolling thunder of the comanches

3128
02:04:48,709 --> 02:04:47,119
he he talked of an ancient white race of

3129
02:04:50,950 --> 02:04:48,719
giants you'll find that in the history

3130
02:04:52,390 --> 02:04:50,960
books in 1857.

3131
02:04:54,709 --> 02:04:52,400
uh he said

3132
02:04:56,390 --> 02:04:54,719
that there was a race of white men about

3133
02:04:58,790 --> 02:04:56,400
10 feet tall

3134
02:05:01,030 --> 02:04:58,800
and he said far richer and more powerful

3135
02:05:02,229 --> 02:05:01,040
than any white people living today he

3136
02:05:03,430 --> 02:05:02,239
said

3137
02:05:05,669 --> 02:05:03,440
that they

3138
02:05:07,830 --> 02:05:05,679
inhabited the country and

3139
02:05:15,750 --> 02:05:07,840
they

3140
02:05:18,470 --> 02:05:15,760
summits of mountains he said

3141
02:05:21,750 --> 02:05:18,480
um and he said that they would destroy

3142
02:05:22,790 --> 02:05:21,760
anyone that came in and he said that he

3143
02:05:23,830 --> 02:05:22,800
called the

3144
02:05:27,750 --> 02:05:23,840
he said

3145
02:05:30,550 --> 02:05:27,760
compared to the men who came later

3146
02:05:32,950 --> 02:05:30,560
they were like a small men

3147
02:05:35,109 --> 02:05:32,960
and you know the same thing when in

3148
02:05:36,390 --> 02:05:35,119
desoto when he came into the florida

3149
02:05:38,470 --> 02:05:36,400
panhandle

3150
02:05:40,470 --> 02:05:38,480
you know he came upon

3151
02:05:43,189 --> 02:05:40,480
a group of people

3152
02:05:46,229 --> 02:05:43,199
um from the muskegon culture and you can

3153
02:05:49,430 --> 02:05:46,239
see that today you know you know

3154
02:05:50,790 --> 02:05:49,440
the spanish called them los indigio in

3155
02:05:54,629 --> 02:05:50,800
indigeo

3156
02:05:58,550 --> 02:05:54,639
uh gigantes uh the giant indians um

3157
02:06:00,550 --> 02:05:58,560
but you if you go to um

3158
02:06:03,669 --> 02:06:00,560
i'm trying to think of the of the town

3159
02:06:05,430 --> 02:06:03,679
now in northern uh in northern florida

3160
02:06:09,109 --> 02:06:05,440
where they have a whole

3161
02:06:11,990 --> 02:06:09,119
museum there uh to this this tribe of of

3162
02:06:16,870 --> 02:06:14,470
that that were giants and and of course

3163
02:06:19,270 --> 02:06:16,880
anthropologists believe that it was due

3164
02:06:20,629 --> 02:06:19,280
to selective breeding whether that's the

3165
02:06:23,270 --> 02:06:20,639
case or not

3166
02:06:25,990 --> 02:06:23,280
um right maybe maybe it was a farm farm

3167
02:06:29,270 --> 02:06:26,000
club for the nba

3168
02:06:32,550 --> 02:06:29,280
maybe an aztec let's tell about a giant

3169
02:06:36,310 --> 02:06:32,560
race that lived in in

3170
02:06:39,030 --> 02:06:36,320
um the cholula indians in mexico said

3171
02:06:42,790 --> 02:06:39,040
that the first race created by the gods

3172
02:06:44,790 --> 02:06:42,800
uh were giants the chavan people of peru

3173
02:06:48,069 --> 02:06:44,800
were apparently giants

3174
02:06:50,229 --> 02:06:48,079
uh the indians tell them a giant race

3175
02:06:52,229 --> 02:06:50,239
who came from the pacific ocean and

3176
02:06:54,709 --> 02:06:52,239
invaded their territory

3177
02:06:56,709 --> 02:06:54,719
and they said the giants were so huge

3178
02:06:58,470 --> 02:06:56,719
that an ordinary man would only reach

3179
02:07:00,870 --> 02:06:58,480
his kneecap

3180
02:07:03,030 --> 02:07:00,880
you know the indians also have stories

3181
02:07:04,790 --> 02:07:03,040
about giants and bolivia

3182
02:07:05,589 --> 02:07:04,800
have you ever read

3183
02:07:07,750 --> 02:07:05,599
that

3184
02:07:08,790 --> 02:07:07,760
de leon's book called the chronicle of

3185
02:07:10,870 --> 02:07:08,800
peru

3186
02:07:12,790 --> 02:07:10,880
where he relates he relates stories in

3187
02:07:15,350 --> 02:07:12,800
there about

3188
02:07:18,390 --> 02:07:15,360
giants who landed on the coast of peru

3189
02:07:21,350 --> 02:07:18,400
and and the ancient legends of of the

3190
02:07:23,430 --> 02:07:21,360
people so there are many many stories

3191
02:07:24,709 --> 02:07:23,440
out there of the giant races that

3192
02:07:26,950 --> 02:07:24,719
inhabited

3193
02:07:28,709 --> 02:07:26,960
north and south america

3194
02:07:30,069 --> 02:07:28,719
yeah and i i find it interesting that

3195
02:07:33,589 --> 02:07:30,079
you have uh

3196
02:07:36,470 --> 02:07:33,599
the two extremes on one hand you have

3197
02:07:39,430 --> 02:07:36,480
very consistent stories of of

3198
02:07:40,550 --> 02:07:39,440
you know human type uh beings of immense

3199
02:07:42,709 --> 02:07:40,560
stature

3200
02:07:45,510 --> 02:07:42,719
and you also have uh

3201
02:07:47,750 --> 02:07:45,520
conversely you have stories of organized

3202
02:07:49,830 --> 02:07:47,760
groups of of diminutive beings who are

3203
02:07:51,910 --> 02:07:49,840
foot to two feet tall and fully

3204
02:07:54,310 --> 02:07:51,920
developed of course you have the pedro

3205
02:07:57,910 --> 02:07:54,320
mountain mummy that was found i believe

3206
02:07:59,350 --> 02:07:57,920
in idaho of a 14 inch tall

3207
02:08:00,950 --> 02:07:59,360
middle-aged

3208
02:08:02,629 --> 02:08:00,960
new roomba

3209
02:08:05,189 --> 02:08:02,639
they were thought to live here in the

3210
02:08:07,109 --> 02:08:05,199
prior mountains of montana

3211
02:08:09,270 --> 02:08:07,119
and they were also thought to have given

3212
02:08:12,790 --> 02:08:09,280
business to clinikou you know that was

3213
02:08:13,990 --> 02:08:12,800
the the great 20th century cochise

3214
02:08:16,229 --> 02:08:14,000
um

3215
02:08:17,910 --> 02:08:16,239
they are also they were also credited

3216
02:08:19,910 --> 02:08:17,920
and are credited today with keeping the

3217
02:08:24,149 --> 02:08:19,920
crow people safe

3218
02:08:26,229 --> 02:08:24,159
um and um uh it said that some of the

3219
02:08:28,310 --> 02:08:26,239
members of the crow tribe even today if

3220
02:08:29,830 --> 02:08:28,320
they pass through the prior gap they

3221
02:08:31,109 --> 02:08:29,840
will leave offerings for the little

3222
02:08:33,510 --> 02:08:31,119
people

3223
02:08:34,830 --> 02:08:33,520
and remembrance of what they did to aid

3224
02:08:36,390 --> 02:08:34,840
the crows

3225
02:08:37,350 --> 02:08:36,400
um

3226
02:08:38,390 --> 02:08:37,360
if you

3227
02:08:42,229 --> 02:08:38,400
um

3228
02:08:43,669 --> 02:08:42,239
there's just dozens of stories of little

3229
02:08:44,390 --> 02:08:43,679
people uh

3230
02:08:47,030 --> 02:08:44,400
yeah

3231
02:08:49,430 --> 02:08:47,040
and there you can find them in in

3232
02:08:52,149 --> 02:08:49,440
you know the shoshone and the and the

3233
02:08:54,149 --> 02:08:52,159
arapahoe down in wyoming have all kinds

3234
02:08:55,750 --> 02:08:54,159
of stories about the little people

3235
02:08:57,750 --> 02:08:55,760
their little people

3236
02:09:00,629 --> 02:08:57,760
are really mean

3237
02:09:02,470 --> 02:09:00,639
yes yeah and i found you know

3238
02:09:05,830 --> 02:09:02,480
i found an account

3239
02:09:06,790 --> 02:09:05,840
from 1905 in the new mexico ethnographic

3240
02:09:08,229 --> 02:09:06,800
journal

3241
02:09:10,149 --> 02:09:08,239
um of

3242
02:09:13,510 --> 02:09:10,159
in the 1880s

3243
02:09:15,910 --> 02:09:13,520
at the picteris pueblo in new mexico

3244
02:09:18,069 --> 02:09:15,920
the pueblo was attacked by an army of

3245
02:09:20,470 --> 02:09:18,079
small one and a half to two foot tall

3246
02:09:22,870 --> 02:09:20,480
warriors extremely fierce

3247
02:09:25,350 --> 02:09:22,880
and the pueblo was almost overrun

3248
02:09:27,510 --> 02:09:25,360
and they had to literally send out for

3249
02:09:29,990 --> 02:09:27,520
reinforcements from the santa cla

3250
02:09:32,470 --> 02:09:30,000
santa clara pueblo and their warriors

3251
02:09:34,790 --> 02:09:32,480
came were able to drive them back but

3252
02:09:36,790 --> 02:09:34,800
but this is in an esteemed ethnographic

3253
02:09:39,430 --> 02:09:36,800
journal

3254
02:09:40,390 --> 02:09:39,440
in 1905 and it was taken very seriously

3255
02:09:41,910 --> 02:09:40,400
the way

3256
02:09:44,709 --> 02:09:41,920
uh the

3257
02:09:46,629 --> 02:09:44,719
scientists or or

3258
02:09:48,229 --> 02:09:46,639
anthropologists wrote this thing up it

3259
02:09:51,189 --> 02:09:48,239
was not done tongue-in-cheek it was

3260
02:09:53,510 --> 02:09:51,199
written like a you know like a

3261
02:09:56,069 --> 02:09:53,520
you just take away the descriptions of

3262
02:09:58,229 --> 02:09:56,079
account of what was going on

3263
02:09:59,750 --> 02:09:58,239
right and and it was it was taken at

3264
02:10:02,390 --> 02:09:59,760
face value by

3265
02:10:04,950 --> 02:10:02,400
by the uh researchers

3266
02:10:08,069 --> 02:10:04,960
do you think there's any parallel could

3267
02:10:11,109 --> 02:10:08,079
these uh giants and could these uh small

3268
02:10:12,950 --> 02:10:11,119
diminutive types be somehow associated

3269
02:10:15,030 --> 02:10:12,960
with some of the star people legends do

3270
02:10:16,470 --> 02:10:15,040
it could we find any sort of connecting

3271
02:10:19,350 --> 02:10:16,480
point there or do you think we're

3272
02:10:21,270 --> 02:10:19,360
dealing specifically with earthbound uh

3273
02:10:23,109 --> 02:10:21,280
earthbound groups that have just

3274
02:10:25,430 --> 02:10:23,119
developed differently let's have an

3275
02:10:27,589 --> 02:10:25,440
answer on our next segment okay thanks

3276
02:10:28,870 --> 02:10:27,599
okay with artie six killer clark and

3277
02:10:38,629 --> 02:10:28,880
jean and chris

3278
02:10:42,830 --> 02:10:40,830
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3385
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3386
02:15:03,189 --> 02:15:01,360
so artie

3387
02:15:05,750 --> 02:15:03,199
chris asked you a question in our last

3388
02:15:09,030 --> 02:15:05,760
segment which now go ahead and respond

3389
02:15:10,229 --> 02:15:09,040
to well i haven't heard that about the

3390
02:15:11,990 --> 02:15:10,239
little people

3391
02:15:13,109 --> 02:15:12,000
but i certainly have heard it about

3392
02:15:16,310 --> 02:15:13,119
giants

3393
02:15:17,589 --> 02:15:16,320
uh that there is a connection um with

3394
02:15:19,430 --> 02:15:17,599
with

3395
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the stars that

3396
02:15:23,109 --> 02:15:20,880
these are

3397
02:15:25,350 --> 02:15:23,119
entities that come from the stars

3398
02:15:27,830 --> 02:15:25,360
well you know even the paiute talk about

3399
02:15:30,550 --> 02:15:27,840
about these people that lived you know

3400
02:15:32,310 --> 02:15:30,560
when they came to that part of nevada

3401
02:15:34,709 --> 02:15:32,320
in that lovelock area

3402
02:15:37,430 --> 02:15:34,719
that when they decided to leave this was

3403
02:15:39,510 --> 02:15:37,440
another group not the giants group but

3404
02:15:41,910 --> 02:15:39,520
that that they uh

3405
02:15:43,430 --> 02:15:41,920
not the red-haired giants but they talk

3406
02:15:45,750 --> 02:15:43,440
about this other group that was very

3407
02:15:48,830 --> 02:15:45,760
good to them and when they left they

3408
02:15:51,750 --> 02:15:48,840
climbed ladders to the sky they

3409
02:15:54,709 --> 02:15:51,760
said and that's why they say they

3410
02:15:57,589 --> 02:15:54,719
married among the paiutes and that's why

3411
02:15:59,350 --> 02:15:57,599
when the people came uh when the white

3412
02:16:00,390 --> 02:15:59,360
man first came to that part of the world

3413
02:16:01,750 --> 02:16:00,400
they found

3414
02:16:04,470 --> 02:16:01,760
um

3415
02:16:05,830 --> 02:16:04,480
when they these uh star people decided

3416
02:16:09,430 --> 02:16:05,840
to leave

3417
02:16:11,109 --> 02:16:09,440
they had mated with earth women and so

3418
02:16:13,270 --> 02:16:11,119
they

3419
02:16:15,669 --> 02:16:13,280
took the children who looked most like

3420
02:16:17,990 --> 02:16:15,679
them with them

3421
02:16:20,550 --> 02:16:18,000
but they left behind the ones that

3422
02:16:22,790 --> 02:16:20,560
looked more like the native people

3423
02:16:25,510 --> 02:16:22,800
and they said that's why even today you

3424
02:16:28,310 --> 02:16:25,520
will find blond-haired

3425
02:16:31,109 --> 02:16:28,320
children that are paiute but it is

3426
02:16:33,589 --> 02:16:31,119
because of their inner marriage with the

3427
02:16:35,830 --> 02:16:33,599
star people now in general if you're

3428
02:16:37,750 --> 02:16:35,840
going to intermarry with another

3429
02:16:39,910 --> 02:16:37,760
species they have to be pretty close

3430
02:16:41,910 --> 02:16:39,920
genetically speaking well absolutely i

3431
02:16:44,629 --> 02:16:41,920
mean they look like humans other than

3432
02:16:46,549 --> 02:16:44,639
that they were fair and and blonde and

3433
02:16:48,870 --> 02:16:46,559
blue eyed apparently

3434
02:16:50,309 --> 02:16:48,880
so basically i can go across to the

3435
02:16:52,870 --> 02:16:50,319
mcdonald's restaurant and have a

3436
02:16:54,389 --> 02:16:52,880
hamburger and the person sitting just

3437
02:16:55,509 --> 02:16:54,399
down

3438
02:16:56,790 --> 02:16:55,519
from me

3439
02:16:58,549 --> 02:16:56,800
could be

3440
02:16:59,429 --> 02:16:58,559
a star person and i probably wouldn't

3441
02:17:00,950 --> 02:16:59,439
know

3442
02:17:02,629 --> 02:17:00,960
that's right

3443
02:17:04,870 --> 02:17:02,639
absolutely

3444
02:17:06,790 --> 02:17:04,880
at least that's what i've been told

3445
02:17:08,230 --> 02:17:06,800
david jacobs would just love to hear

3446
02:17:09,589 --> 02:17:08,240
that because

3447
02:17:11,429 --> 02:17:09,599
you know we're getting into his

3448
02:17:13,589 --> 02:17:11,439
territory

3449
02:17:16,870 --> 02:17:13,599
of hubrids and

3450
02:17:18,790 --> 02:17:16,880
they walk among us uh type

3451
02:17:20,790 --> 02:17:18,800
type scary stuff

3452
02:17:21,990 --> 02:17:20,800
which sounds great someone should do a

3453
02:17:24,230 --> 02:17:22,000
screenplay

3454
02:17:27,429 --> 02:17:24,240
another thing that i wanted to

3455
02:17:30,549 --> 02:17:27,439
to ask you about is

3456
02:17:32,150 --> 02:17:30,559
occasionally you'll uh when you research

3457
02:17:34,070 --> 02:17:32,160
this subject

3458
02:17:35,750 --> 02:17:34,080
invariably you'll

3459
02:17:38,870 --> 02:17:35,760
run into

3460
02:17:41,669 --> 02:17:38,880
accounts that talk about the return

3461
02:17:43,509 --> 02:17:41,679
of these beings and that seems to me to

3462
02:17:46,150 --> 02:17:43,519
be a consistent

3463
02:17:48,549 --> 02:17:46,160
element that you find in these stories

3464
02:17:50,549 --> 02:17:48,559
that they're gone now they occasionally

3465
02:17:53,030 --> 02:17:50,559
come back and visit there is some sort

3466
02:17:55,429 --> 02:17:53,040
of uh interaction but

3467
02:17:58,469 --> 02:17:55,439
there's that hint that at the end of

3468
02:18:00,950 --> 02:17:58,479
this current world we're going to have a

3469
02:18:02,629 --> 02:18:00,960
you know a very obvious return of these

3470
02:18:05,030 --> 02:18:02,639
beings uh leaving no room for

3471
02:18:08,629 --> 02:18:05,040
interpretation have you encountered this

3472
02:18:10,549 --> 02:18:08,639
and what is your take on the return of

3473
02:18:15,110 --> 02:18:10,559
the star people

3474
02:18:16,629 --> 02:18:15,120
and what kind of role that might play

3475
02:18:20,629 --> 02:18:16,639
historically

3476
02:18:24,790 --> 02:18:20,639
i haven't encountered that at all

3477
02:18:27,750 --> 02:18:24,800
that the whole idea is of of the aliens

3478
02:18:29,750 --> 02:18:27,760
are going to save us from ourselves that

3479
02:18:32,309 --> 02:18:29,760
giants of the ace craft are going to

3480
02:18:35,349 --> 02:18:32,319
come and and take the faithful

3481
02:18:36,950 --> 02:18:35,359
away while the the rest of us you know

3482
02:18:39,509 --> 02:18:36,960
destroy each other

3483
02:18:40,309 --> 02:18:39,519
none of that have i ever encountered and

3484
02:18:41,429 --> 02:18:40,319
and

3485
02:18:46,389 --> 02:18:41,439
rarely

3486
02:18:49,030 --> 02:18:46,399
collected have i ever heard the idea

3487
02:18:51,509 --> 02:18:49,040
that the star people are

3488
02:18:54,230 --> 02:18:51,519
interested in helping to save us or

3489
02:18:58,389 --> 02:18:54,240
gives advice on

3490
02:19:00,389 --> 02:18:58,399
ways that we could change things and

3491
02:19:03,030 --> 02:19:00,399
it just doesn't happen and yet i know

3492
02:19:05,990 --> 02:19:03,040
there's a lot of stories like that

3493
02:19:07,990 --> 02:19:06,000
well there's a lot of confabulation i i

3494
02:19:10,070 --> 02:19:08,000
too have not heard anything about

3495
02:19:12,309 --> 02:19:10,080
anything uh anyone from out there coming

3496
02:19:13,349 --> 02:19:12,319
to solve us from from our save us from

3497
02:19:17,990 --> 02:19:13,359
ourselves

3498
02:19:22,150 --> 02:19:18,000
yeah i wasn't i wasn't even suggesting

3499
02:19:24,709 --> 02:19:22,160
that as as a uh an element to uh the the

3500
02:19:26,389 --> 02:19:24,719
stories and and and kind of little

3501
02:19:28,150 --> 02:19:26,399
twists at the end of legends that i've

3502
02:19:30,150 --> 02:19:28,160
encountered but i think that it all goes

3503
02:19:31,589 --> 02:19:30,160
together though don't you because you

3504
02:19:33,910 --> 02:19:31,599
know you look at

3505
02:19:35,669 --> 02:19:33,920
people suggesting that the people are

3506
02:19:38,150 --> 02:19:35,679
going to return after we destroy

3507
02:19:40,870 --> 02:19:38,160
ourselves or before we restore

3508
02:19:43,509 --> 02:19:40,880
you know that whole thing around 2012

3509
02:19:45,270 --> 02:19:43,519
you know the maya loved it because it

3510
02:19:50,230 --> 02:19:45,280
was a way for them to

3511
02:19:53,190 --> 02:19:50,240
to piggyback on um the this whole

3512
02:19:54,630 --> 02:19:53,200
idea of the new age of the spacecraft

3513
02:19:59,110 --> 02:19:54,640
showing up and

3514
02:20:03,670 --> 02:20:01,270
you know you couldn't go to palinka and

3515
02:20:07,030 --> 02:20:03,680
i would go to palinka several times

3516
02:20:08,309 --> 02:20:07,040
leading up to 2012 and you'd be i was

3517
02:20:11,270 --> 02:20:08,319
there too

3518
02:20:14,309 --> 02:20:11,280
by young by young artists saying do you

3519
02:20:16,950 --> 02:20:14,319
want to see our our uh our

3520
02:20:19,030 --> 02:20:16,960
mayans astronaut

3521
02:20:20,950 --> 02:20:19,040
and when you just sit down with them and

3522
02:20:22,790 --> 02:20:20,960
say why are you doing this they said to

3523
02:20:24,630 --> 02:20:22,800
make money you know that's what the

3524
02:20:26,710 --> 02:20:24,640
tourists like yeah

3525
02:20:28,070 --> 02:20:26,720
they would have these intricate carvings

3526
02:20:30,790 --> 02:20:28,080
that were reproductions of the

3527
02:20:32,870 --> 02:20:30,800
sarcophagus you know which were just

3528
02:20:35,270 --> 02:20:32,880
beautiful art pieces

3529
02:20:38,150 --> 02:20:35,280
but they would sell them you know to to

3530
02:20:38,950 --> 02:20:38,160
these tourists who had come there to see

3531
02:20:46,790 --> 02:20:38,960
the

3532
02:20:48,710 --> 02:20:46,800
absolutely was a falsehood

3533
02:20:50,389 --> 02:20:48,720
and had nothing to do with the true

3534
02:20:52,309 --> 02:20:50,399
story of

3535
02:20:54,469 --> 02:20:52,319
king pacquiao you know

3536
02:20:56,630 --> 02:20:54,479
yeah i'm very very knowledgeable about

3537
02:20:59,510 --> 02:20:56,640
that subject my brother

3538
02:21:02,309 --> 02:20:59,520
has the finest reproduction of piccol's

3539
02:21:04,710 --> 02:21:02,319
sarcophagus lid done in native palenque

3540
02:21:05,910 --> 02:21:04,720
limestone it is the finest uh in

3541
02:21:08,230 --> 02:21:05,920
existence

3542
02:21:10,309 --> 02:21:08,240
uh it also has the activation hole

3543
02:21:12,389 --> 02:21:10,319
behind the ear so that you can put in a

3544
02:21:15,429 --> 02:21:12,399
little peg and and with it with the

3545
02:21:17,510 --> 02:21:15,439
knotted uh uh a little knotted twine you

3546
02:21:19,510 --> 02:21:17,520
can do the calculations on the lid i'm

3547
02:21:22,469 --> 02:21:19,520
really up to speed on that i was

3548
02:21:26,150 --> 02:21:22,479
actually in palenque uh in uh

3549
02:21:29,349 --> 02:21:26,160
mid to late november uh 2012. um staying

3550
02:21:31,110 --> 02:21:29,359
at the chiang kai and uh and finding out

3551
02:21:33,590 --> 02:21:31,120
that the locals down there were jacking

3552
02:21:37,110 --> 02:21:33,600
up prices three uh up to three four

3553
02:21:39,750 --> 02:21:37,120
times hilarious yeah oh it was it was

3554
02:21:42,230 --> 02:21:39,760
it was you know and it would be so

3555
02:21:43,190 --> 02:21:42,240
interesting to uh to to watch them

3556
02:21:46,150 --> 02:21:43,200
because

3557
02:21:47,750 --> 02:21:46,160
i kind of developed a you know um a sign

3558
02:21:49,429 --> 02:21:47,760
language uh

3559
02:21:50,469 --> 02:21:49,439
um

3560
02:21:52,150 --> 02:21:50,479
you know there there are different

3561
02:21:54,230 --> 02:21:52,160
dialects with the maya and of course i

3562
02:21:55,830 --> 02:21:54,240
had a couple of guys who could speak you

3563
02:21:57,590 --> 02:21:55,840
know fluent they were fluent in some of

3564
02:21:59,990 --> 02:21:57,600
the different dialects

3565
02:22:02,550 --> 02:22:00,000
but often i'd find myself alone you know

3566
02:22:04,790 --> 02:22:02,560
with just a group of i'd sit with those

3567
02:22:06,150 --> 02:22:04,800
those maya artists there that were

3568
02:22:08,389 --> 02:22:06,160
selling to the

3569
02:22:11,030 --> 02:22:08,399
tourists just just out of interest to

3570
02:22:13,429 --> 02:22:11,040
watch the interaction you know what was

3571
02:22:15,510 --> 02:22:13,439
going on and and to see the kinds of

3572
02:22:17,830 --> 02:22:15,520
things that you know they were loving it

3573
02:22:20,790 --> 02:22:17,840
because they were making money oh

3574
02:22:23,190 --> 02:22:20,800
yeah it was at the same time they knew i

3575
02:22:23,990 --> 02:22:23,200
mean they were exploiting the situation

3576
02:22:27,510 --> 02:22:24,000
of

3577
02:22:29,110 --> 02:22:27,520
yeah well that's

3578
02:22:30,870 --> 02:22:29,120
you know that's called uh that's called

3579
02:22:33,349 --> 02:22:30,880
uh savvy you know being a savvy

3580
02:22:36,469 --> 02:22:33,359
businessman but getting back to my point

3581
02:22:37,990 --> 02:22:36,479
uh that i was uh bringing up about

3582
02:22:39,590 --> 02:22:38,000
the return

3583
02:22:44,070 --> 02:22:39,600
of

3584
02:22:46,870 --> 02:22:44,080
legendary figures now what springs to

3585
02:22:49,429 --> 02:22:46,880
mind for me of course uh here in the

3586
02:22:50,790 --> 02:22:49,439
southwest is the return turn of true

3587
02:22:52,630 --> 02:22:50,800
white brother

3588
02:22:55,429 --> 02:22:52,640
and when he arrives before the end of

3589
02:22:57,429 --> 02:22:55,439
the fourth world he's not coming to save

3590
02:23:00,070 --> 02:22:57,439
all our problems and save us from

3591
02:23:01,429 --> 02:23:00,080
ourselves or solve all our problems he's

3592
02:23:02,790 --> 02:23:01,439
coming to

3593
02:23:06,230 --> 02:23:02,800
kill

3594
02:23:07,590 --> 02:23:06,240
all the kahopi or the false hopi and uh

3595
02:23:08,630 --> 02:23:07,600
the story

3596
02:23:10,950 --> 02:23:08,640
has a

3597
02:23:12,070 --> 02:23:10,960
kind of an unpleasant twist that uh

3598
02:23:14,150 --> 02:23:12,080
generally

3599
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it could be translated as he will be

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3601
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are not living the golden rule and these

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people will lose their heads

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struggled a little bit to to give me the

3607
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sort of the literal translation but

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basically what he was saying is it's

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going to be kind of like the the red

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and you are listening to the paracast

3739
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you know when i hear this they're gonna

3740
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get their heads lopped off because

3741
02:29:21,190 --> 02:29:18,160
they're christian it sounds like isis

3742
02:29:22,389 --> 02:29:21,200
all right i know it does doesn't it

3743
02:29:23,990 --> 02:29:22,399
oh boy

3744
02:29:27,030 --> 02:29:24,000
well here's another example of the

3745
02:29:29,030 --> 02:29:27,040
return of uh of a star bean

3746
02:29:31,670 --> 02:29:29,040
doesn't the uh the story of white

3747
02:29:34,550 --> 02:29:31,680
buffalo calf woman talk about her uh

3748
02:29:35,590 --> 02:29:34,560
returning at the end of uh this current

3749
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world

3750
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and that the people will know it's time

3751
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for her return when the uh the white

3752
02:29:44,230 --> 02:29:41,120
buffalo herd is born

3753
02:29:46,469 --> 02:29:44,240
i think that that that is a

3754
02:29:47,830 --> 02:29:46,479
perhaps a part of their story but i'm

3755
02:29:49,750 --> 02:29:47,840
not um

3756
02:29:51,910 --> 02:29:49,760
you know it's not a part

3757
02:29:54,710 --> 02:29:51,920
as far as i know of the traditional

3758
02:29:57,110 --> 02:29:54,720
story because the traditional story says

3759
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that the white buffalo woman disappeared

3760
02:30:02,790 --> 02:29:59,760
over the horizon after she told them

3761
02:30:04,870 --> 02:30:02,800
right the people saw her walking off and

3762
02:30:06,150 --> 02:30:04,880
outlined against the red ball of the

3763
02:30:08,389 --> 02:30:06,160
setting sun

3764
02:30:10,389 --> 02:30:08,399
and as she went she stopped and rolled

3765
02:30:12,950 --> 02:30:10,399
over four times the first time she

3766
02:30:15,270 --> 02:30:12,960
turned into a black buffalo the second

3767
02:30:16,950 --> 02:30:15,280
time into a brown one and a third into a

3768
02:30:19,349 --> 02:30:16,960
red one and finally

3769
02:30:22,070 --> 02:30:19,359
the fourth one she rolled over and she

3770
02:30:24,070 --> 02:30:22,080
turned into a white female buffalo right

3771
02:30:26,389 --> 02:30:24,080
and the white buffalo is the most sacred

3772
02:30:28,309 --> 02:30:26,399
living thing you could ever encounter if

3773
02:30:30,070 --> 02:30:28,319
you are a lakota

3774
02:30:32,870 --> 02:30:30,080
yeah and then they say

3775
02:30:36,790 --> 02:30:32,880
maybe sometimes she will come back

3776
02:30:39,030 --> 02:30:36,800
but i know that that uh some of the the

3777
02:30:41,670 --> 02:30:39,040
the appearance of the white buffalo was

3778
02:30:44,309 --> 02:30:41,680
a foretelling of of

3779
02:30:46,389 --> 02:30:44,319
a major change to take place

3780
02:30:47,990 --> 02:30:46,399
that's all i've ever heard well you know

3781
02:30:51,190 --> 02:30:48,000
the story of the herd right you know

3782
02:30:52,950 --> 02:30:51,200
miracle moon was born in may 1998 to the

3783
02:30:54,550 --> 02:30:52,960
jim and dean o'reilly

3784
02:30:56,630 --> 02:30:54,560
right outside i think it was pine ridge

3785
02:31:00,230 --> 02:30:56,640
no the white buffalo being born but a

3786
02:31:02,710 --> 02:31:00,240
second one was born wasn't it

3787
02:31:03,830 --> 02:31:02,720
the herd has 19 animals in it or that

3788
02:31:06,230 --> 02:31:03,840
that was a total number of white

3789
02:31:07,750 --> 02:31:06,240
buffalos that have been born uh to that

3790
02:31:11,110 --> 02:31:07,760
particular herd

3791
02:31:12,950 --> 02:31:11,120
there's 19 of them oh okay obviously a

3792
02:31:16,070 --> 02:31:12,960
bunch of them have already passed on and

3793
02:31:17,990 --> 02:31:16,080
died only one has died of of violence

3794
02:31:20,070 --> 02:31:18,000
and that was the ninth one was struck by

3795
02:31:22,389 --> 02:31:20,080
lightning but that herd used to be right

3796
02:31:23,270 --> 02:31:22,399
here stories that much so i really can't

3797
02:31:25,750 --> 02:31:23,280
speak

3798
02:31:28,070 --> 02:31:25,760
intelligently about it you know

3799
02:31:30,469 --> 02:31:28,080
yeah that particular herd after the

3800
02:31:33,429 --> 02:31:30,479
second one was born in 1999 and their

3801
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ranch uh for the second time uh became

3802
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mecca

3803
02:31:38,710 --> 02:31:36,640
the riley's decided to move and they

3804
02:31:41,110 --> 02:31:38,720
were fast talked into getting a ranch at

3805
02:31:44,550 --> 02:31:41,120
8 000 feet right at the base of the san

3806
02:31:47,030 --> 02:31:44,560
francisco peaks in 2010 we had about 30

3807
02:31:48,469 --> 02:31:47,040
feet of snow there and and poor jim was

3808
02:31:51,030 --> 02:31:48,479
struggling through the snow with hay

3809
02:31:52,790 --> 02:31:51,040
bales to keep the buffalo fed and he

3810
02:31:54,070 --> 02:31:52,800
died of a massive heart attack and a

3811
02:31:56,550 --> 02:31:54,080
group of us

3812
02:31:58,309 --> 02:31:56,560
got together and helped dina raise

3813
02:31:59,830 --> 02:31:58,319
several million dollars to move the

3814
02:32:01,750 --> 02:31:59,840
ranch to uh

3815
02:32:03,750 --> 02:32:01,760
you know to down to sea level first

3816
02:32:07,349 --> 02:32:03,760
ashland oregon and then

3817
02:32:09,910 --> 02:32:07,359
now the herd is in ukiah california and

3818
02:32:11,910 --> 02:32:09,920
they've had a total i think of 19 born i

3819
02:32:13,590 --> 02:32:11,920
have a little video on my my youtube

3820
02:32:16,150 --> 02:32:13,600
channel it tells the story if you're

3821
02:32:18,230 --> 02:32:16,160
interested yeah i had no idea

3822
02:32:21,110 --> 02:32:18,240
yeah pretty amazing story and these

3823
02:32:22,550 --> 02:32:21,120
these animals i've i've seen i saw jesus

3824
02:32:24,389 --> 02:32:22,560
i don't know probably

3825
02:32:25,590 --> 02:32:24,399
eight or nine of them i think when i did

3826
02:32:27,590 --> 02:32:25,600
the video

3827
02:32:29,349 --> 02:32:27,600
they are an anomaly they are not albinos

3828
02:32:32,070 --> 02:32:29,359
they have brown eyes they go through a

3829
02:32:34,389 --> 02:32:32,080
complete color change as you described

3830
02:32:36,710 --> 02:32:34,399
from white to beige beige to brown brown

3831
02:32:39,190 --> 02:32:36,720
to red red to black and then back

3832
02:32:40,550 --> 02:32:39,200
uh reverse it takes about a year and a

3833
02:32:42,950 --> 02:32:40,560
half for them to go through the color

3834
02:32:44,630 --> 02:32:42,960
change but they're not albinos and and

3835
02:32:46,790 --> 02:32:44,640
they have not been born from the same

3836
02:32:50,550 --> 02:32:46,800
parents they've been born from different

3837
02:32:52,630 --> 02:32:50,560
pairings it's statistically impossible

3838
02:32:55,349 --> 02:32:52,640
for this to take place but

3839
02:32:57,429 --> 02:32:55,359
according to what i i heard is that this

3840
02:32:59,830 --> 02:32:57,439
supposedly is a sign that the white

3841
02:33:01,429 --> 02:32:59,840
buffalo calf woman is returning

3842
02:33:02,469 --> 02:33:01,439
as you said there's going to be a great

3843
02:33:05,190 --> 02:33:02,479
change

3844
02:33:08,389 --> 02:33:05,200
similar to the version of the maya

3845
02:33:09,190 --> 02:33:08,399
and the hopi uh miss of uh not so much

3846
02:33:10,870 --> 02:33:09,200
you know

3847
02:33:12,790 --> 02:33:10,880
an apocalypse the world's going to end

3848
02:33:13,990 --> 02:33:12,800
we're all going to die but but a great

3849
02:33:15,670 --> 02:33:14,000
change

3850
02:33:17,590 --> 02:33:15,680
uh that would signal the end of this

3851
02:33:19,750 --> 02:33:17,600
current world and but i'll tell you

3852
02:33:22,790 --> 02:33:19,760
right now we could we could use a a

3853
02:33:25,750 --> 02:33:22,800
reboot a reset right now the way things

3854
02:33:28,150 --> 02:33:25,760
are going on this planet i think it's uh

3855
02:33:29,750 --> 02:33:28,160
and you'll probably agree that uh

3856
02:33:32,309 --> 02:33:29,760
we're living in in an age of

3857
02:33:33,910 --> 02:33:32,319
dysfunctional uh

3858
02:33:36,790 --> 02:33:33,920
well don't get me going then we'll start

3859
02:33:40,790 --> 02:33:36,800
talking about politics

3860
02:33:46,630 --> 02:33:43,590
you and our listeners

3861
02:33:48,790 --> 02:33:46,640
you know i i just haven't haven't talked

3862
02:33:50,150 --> 02:33:48,800
to any elders about

3863
02:33:52,070 --> 02:33:50,160
you know the appearance of the light

3864
02:33:54,710 --> 02:33:52,080
buffalo and what it

3865
02:33:56,630 --> 02:33:54,720
might mean for the future and if it is

3866
02:33:57,910 --> 02:33:56,640
an indication that white buffalo woman

3867
02:34:00,870 --> 02:33:57,920
is coming back

3868
02:34:03,270 --> 02:34:00,880
all i have been told is that it's a

3869
02:34:07,030 --> 02:34:03,280
warning of a great change that's going

3870
02:34:08,230 --> 02:34:07,040
to come upon the earth unless we change

3871
02:34:10,150 --> 02:34:08,240
our ways

3872
02:34:11,510 --> 02:34:10,160
yeah and unfortunately i i have a

3873
02:34:12,309 --> 02:34:11,520
feeling

3874
02:34:16,230 --> 02:34:12,319
you know

3875
02:34:18,630 --> 02:34:16,240
reservations and people say you need to

3876
02:34:22,150 --> 02:34:18,640
come home you need to come here and live

3877
02:34:23,990 --> 02:34:22,160
and get out of uh out of where you are

3878
02:34:25,750 --> 02:34:24,000
you know because this is the only place

3879
02:34:27,190 --> 02:34:25,760
that's going to be safe you know you

3880
02:34:29,670 --> 02:34:27,200
need to come back

3881
02:34:33,349 --> 02:34:29,680
so you know there's a you know i even

3882
02:34:35,429 --> 02:34:33,359
ran on to a la condone indian down in in

3883
02:34:36,630 --> 02:34:35,439
near palenque who told me that they're

3884
02:34:39,670 --> 02:34:36,640
wonderful

3885
02:34:42,070 --> 02:34:39,680
i'm already prepared and my family has

3886
02:34:44,389 --> 02:34:42,080
prepared for this end to come and he

3887
02:34:47,349 --> 02:34:44,399
says you're welcome to come come and

3888
02:34:48,710 --> 02:34:47,359
stay with us yeah yep you have to be uh

3889
02:34:53,270 --> 02:34:48,720
above

3890
02:34:55,270 --> 02:34:53,280
and of course the lack and dome live in

3891
02:34:58,309 --> 02:34:55,280
the highlands and uh

3892
02:35:00,469 --> 02:34:58,319
what around plankey san cristobal and

3893
02:35:03,349 --> 02:35:00,479
and that's in the highlands so it's it's

3894
02:35:05,110 --> 02:35:03,359
above uh the high water mark

3895
02:35:07,030 --> 02:35:05,120
well at least you have an exit plan i

3896
02:35:09,030 --> 02:35:07,040
don't like heights so i'm stuck where i

3897
02:35:10,870 --> 02:35:09,040
am

3898
02:35:13,349 --> 02:35:10,880
well i already live at

3899
02:35:15,349 --> 02:35:13,359
almost 6 000 feet so i wouldn't have too

3900
02:35:16,230 --> 02:35:15,359
far to climb yeah you won't have to go

3901
02:35:17,830 --> 02:35:16,240
far

3902
02:35:20,630 --> 02:35:17,840
i'll probably have beachfront property

3903
02:35:22,389 --> 02:35:20,640
here if if all this comes to pass of

3904
02:35:23,510 --> 02:35:22,399
course you have to take all these uh

3905
02:35:24,870 --> 02:35:23,520
stories

3906
02:35:26,389 --> 02:35:24,880
you know they're with a grain of salt

3907
02:35:28,469 --> 02:35:26,399
there there is a certain amount of

3908
02:35:30,469 --> 02:35:28,479
allegory going on here and

3909
02:35:32,550 --> 02:35:30,479
the morality tales and and

3910
02:35:35,190 --> 02:35:32,560
and such but but i think at the heart of

3911
02:35:35,830 --> 02:35:35,200
it it does speak to some sort of truth

3912
02:35:42,230 --> 02:35:35,840
and

3913
02:35:47,110 --> 02:35:42,240
things are going to get a lot more dicey

3914
02:35:49,349 --> 02:35:47,120
before we see some sort of golden age

3915
02:35:51,110 --> 02:35:49,359
oh you think

3916
02:35:55,270 --> 02:35:51,120
uh yeah

3917
02:35:59,750 --> 02:35:57,030
doing a lot better

3918
02:36:01,910 --> 02:35:59,760
yeah well i sure hope so maybe you know

3919
02:36:03,670 --> 02:36:01,920
i could be persuaded then to you know

3920
02:36:04,469 --> 02:36:03,680
close my eyes

3921
02:36:06,710 --> 02:36:04,479
take

3922
02:36:09,590 --> 02:36:06,720
a trip where i'm not really

3923
02:36:11,110 --> 02:36:09,600
aware of the higher height

3924
02:36:12,550 --> 02:36:11,120
and then maybe i'll be able to tolerate

3925
02:36:14,710 --> 02:36:12,560
it but right now when you tell me you're

3926
02:36:17,510 --> 02:36:14,720
living six seven thousand feet

3927
02:36:19,510 --> 02:36:17,520
or my friends in colorado living in

3928
02:36:21,750 --> 02:36:19,520
elevated destinations

3929
02:36:24,230 --> 02:36:21,760
you know that's fine for them and they

3930
02:36:26,309 --> 02:36:24,240
can enjoy themselves or as we say back

3931
02:36:29,429 --> 02:36:26,319
in brooklyn mazel tov but

3932
02:36:31,270 --> 02:36:29,439
not yet for me artie six killer clark

3933
02:36:34,070 --> 02:36:31,280
again this has been a lot of fun to talk

3934
02:36:35,590 --> 02:36:34,080
about all these legends and their impact

3935
02:36:37,510 --> 02:36:35,600
can you tell our listeners if they want

3936
02:36:40,070 --> 02:36:37,520
more information about the things you've

3937
02:36:43,630 --> 02:36:40,080
done where they can check out sure they

3938
02:36:46,870 --> 02:36:45,830
www.sixkiller.com or they can write me

3939
02:36:47,550 --> 02:36:46,880
directly

3940
02:36:51,110 --> 02:36:47,560
at

3941
02:36:54,389 --> 02:36:51,120
rdardy sixkiller.com i answer every

3942
02:36:55,270 --> 02:36:54,399
email so if you guys wanna write me do

3943
02:37:01,750 --> 02:36:55,280
so

3944
02:37:03,349 --> 02:37:01,760
our guests go over there and see what

3945
02:37:05,349 --> 02:37:03,359
our listeners have to say and sometimes

3946
02:37:07,510 --> 02:37:05,359
it gets to be kind of interesting you

3947
02:37:09,110 --> 02:37:07,520
can check us out on twitter

3948
02:37:11,030 --> 02:37:09,120
if you look for

3949
02:37:13,670 --> 02:37:11,040
the power cast look for the power cast

3950
02:37:15,270 --> 02:37:13,680
on twitter i'm not super active there

3951
02:37:17,670 --> 02:37:15,280
and i really should be

3952
02:37:18,469 --> 02:37:17,680
but i mostly just announced episodes of

3953
02:37:22,150 --> 02:37:18,479
the show

3954
02:37:25,750 --> 02:37:23,510
tweet

3955
02:37:28,389 --> 02:37:25,760
chris didn't just do that

3956
02:37:30,710 --> 02:37:28,399
tweet tweet i am imagining this i am

3957
02:37:33,110 --> 02:37:30,720
having some kind of weird paranormal

3958
02:37:35,349 --> 02:37:33,120
experience or just a plain nightmare you

3959
02:37:38,070 --> 02:37:35,359
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3960
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3961
02:37:42,150 --> 02:37:40,319
okay you see that i finally got him to

3962
02:37:45,590 --> 02:37:42,160
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rd6 killer clark thanks for joining us

3984
02:38:44,469 --> 02:38:42,479
on the power cast

3985
02:38:46,070 --> 02:38:44,479
well you're sure welcome i always enjoy

3986
02:38:48,710 --> 02:38:46,080
talking to you guys i never know where

3987
02:38:53,620 --> 02:38:48,720
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3988
02:39:03,910 --> 02:39:00,690
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02:39:09,670 --> 02:39:06,790
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